Re: [Trans] comments on draft-linus-trans-gossip-ct-01

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> Mon, 23 March 2015 14:43 UTC

Return-Path: <kaduk@mit.edu>
X-Original-To: trans@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: trans@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5711A8AC3 for <trans@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:43:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.211
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gcKSzBuSJKox for <trans@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:43:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu [18.7.68.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46D271A8AD0 for <trans@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-AuditID: 12074425-f79ca6d000000e5e-ac-55102685943e
Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id AC.C8.03678.58620155; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:43:17 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id t2NEhH8r012705; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:43:17 -0400
Received: from multics.mit.edu (system-low-sipb.mit.edu [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id t2NEhFtR023501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:43:16 -0400
Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id t2NEhEWR013736; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:43:14 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:43:14 -0400
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU>
To: Linus Nordberg <linus@nordu.net>
In-Reply-To: <87h9tcge8a.fsf@nordberg.se>
Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.1.10.1503231032585.22210@multics.mit.edu>
References: <alpine.GSO.1.10.1503222238550.22210@multics.mit.edu> <87h9tcge8a.fsf@nordberg.se>
User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII"
X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrLIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrduqJhBqcGylhcX2ee+ZLNY+vsji wOSxZMlPJo/ui3MYA5iiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJuL1nOXPCGp+Lzw0lMDYxvObsYOTkkBEwk 5k3fxw5hi0lcuLeerYuRi0NIYDGTxNzzs6GcjYwS/cu2sYBUCQkcYpLYdC4fItHAKLHr4ENG kASLgLbE6xWzwWw2ARWJmW82soHYIkD2uq2zmUBsZgEhieU3poPZwgL2EtPaHoPZnAKaEpd/ 7gSzeQUcJbp3/WeHWBYn8eH9XGYQW1RAR2L1/iksEDWCEidnPmGBmKklsXz6NpYJjIKzkKRm IUktYGRaxSibklulm5uYmVOcmqxbnJyYl5dapGuhl5tZopeaUrqJERSq7C6qOxgnHFI6xCjA wajEw1sRwB8qxJpYVlyZe4hRkoNJSZR3tbBAqBBfUn5KZUZicUZ8UWlOavEhRgkOZiUR3uq7 QOW8KYmVValF+TApaQ4WJXHeTT/4QoQE0hNLUrNTUwtSi2CyMhwcShK8n1WAhgoWpaanVqRl 5pQgpJk4OEGG8wANl1EFquEtLkjMLc5Mh8ifYlSUEud9BtIsAJLIKM2D64WlkleM4kCvCPO2 grTzANMQXPcroMFMQIPP5fOBDC5JREhJNTCuVao+u729+u/RtukfpF48eHrrcbdpwMJ/2oX3 dN5PrZTQ9/La09wWbaaQkaSuwpYwP1Bn7m+lSZP/9U5n+XVmz4t9+S/0fM6sbi342sA7XXpu w56VMdW3tiQs7b4r5MqwcapF2IboH5uuNnFKLy81m7r1yqpDUcfez122O7RVvfyi9hHlsx0r lFiKMxINtZiLihMBXgh95QADAAA=
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/trans/I85CB_SUYIcRDMVXrvg8jq2q1y8>
Cc: trans@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Trans] comments on draft-linus-trans-gossip-ct-01
X-BeenThere: trans@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Public Notary Transparency working group discussion list <trans.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/trans>, <mailto:trans-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trans/>
List-Post: <mailto:trans@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:trans-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/trans>, <mailto:trans-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:43:25 -0000

[fixed embarassing typo in the subject line]

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Linus Nordberg wrote:

> Ben,
>
> Thanks for the review. Addressing some issues below and others in a
> separate reply to Tom's comments.
>
>
> Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> wrote
> Sun, 22 Mar 2015 22:51:38 -0400 (EDT):
>
> | I seem to be missing a normative reference for various terminology and
> | conventions (e.g., "the timestamp, as a number", which I assume is
> | milliseconds since the epoch, excluding leap seconds, in decimal, to match
> | the other specs).
>
> They are all from RFC6962. What'd be the right way of refer to it?
> Mentioning 6962 in each and every entry, like
>
>          +  sct_version - Version as defined in [RFC6962] Section 3.2,
>             as a number.
>
>          +  log_id - LogID as defined in [RFC6962] Section 3.2, as a
>             base64 encoded string.
>
> or rather put some text at the top of the section (3.1.3. in this case)?

I would actually consider making a section 1.1 "Terminology", with
something like "this document relies on terminology and data structures
defined in RFC 6962, including but not limited to the SCT Version, LogID,
SCT timestamp, CTExtensions, ...".  Of the two you list, I would prefer
the former (mentioning 6962 in each line).

> | The formatting in 4.1.3 seems funky; it looks like a list has been
> | condensed into running text (including bullet symbols)
>
> Would capitalizing the first word of each point be sufficient or should
> we get rid of the list altogether?

This list is okay, but I would just make it a semicolon-separated list.


-Ben