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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 10:59:07 -0500
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On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Richard Barnes wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> This might not be quite the right list for this, but since I'm not aware
>> of a "ct-implementors" list, I thought
>> I'd go ahead and post it.
>>
>> tl;dr: Logging with live updates to the Merkle tree can be done at rates
>> of at least 10-150qps.
>>
>
> Thanks for the update. Am I right that this resolves your concerns about
> 6962bis, and that you no longer think the specification needs changing
> to support the expected load for the deployment you have in mind?
>
> I'm trying to determine if we are now ready to send the document to the
> IESG.
>

Short answer: No.

Longer answer: After a late-night pizza / scotch / whiteboard session with
Eran and a few others last week, I have some more focused asks.  I'll try
to get them written up this afternoon.

--Richard

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Paul Wouters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:paul@nohats.ca" target=3D"_blank">paul@nohats.ca</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Richard Ba=
rnes wrote:<br>
<br>
Richard,<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This might not be quite the right list for this, but since I&#39;m not awar=
e of a &quot;ct-implementors&quot; list, I thought<br>
I&#39;d go ahead and post it.<br>
<br>
tl;dr: Logging with live updates to the Merkle tree can be done at rates of=
 at least 10-150qps.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
Thanks for the update. Am I right that this resolves your concerns about<br=
>
6962bis, and that you no longer think the specification needs changing<br>
to support the expected load for the deployment you have in mind?<br>
<br>
I&#39;m trying to determine if we are now ready to send the document to the=
 IESG.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>Short answer: No.<br><br></div><div>Longer ans=
wer: After a late-night pizza / scotch / whiteboard session with Eran and a=
 few others last week, I have some more focused asks.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll try to=
 get them written up this afternoon.<br><br></div><div>--Richard<br></div><=
div><br></div></div></div></div>

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