Re: [Trans] Draft agenda

Rob Stradling <rob.stradling@comodo.com> Wed, 26 February 2014 13:28 UTC

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On 26/02/14 12:45, Carl Wallace wrote:
>
> On 2/26/14, 7:35 AM, "Rob Stradling" <rob.stradling@comodo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 26/02/14 12:27, Ben Laurie wrote:
>>> On 26 February 2014 11:57, Rob Stradling <rob.stradling@comodo.com>
>>> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>> But if we must have ritual compliance with 5280, then my preferred
>>>> solution
>>>> is to "poison" the Issuer Name in the Precertificate.
>>>>
>>>> For example...
>>>> Certificate Issuer Name: C=GB, O=My CA Ltd., CN=My CA
>>>> Precertificate Issuer Name: 1.2.3.4=CT, C=GB, O=My CA Ltd., CN=My CA
>>>>
>>>> Sign both the Precertificate and the Certificate with the same CA
>>>> private
>>>> key.  Use the same serial number for both.
>>>>
>>>> It wouldn't matter whether or not there exists a CA Certificate with
>>>> the
>>>> Subject Name "1.2.3.4=CT, C=GB, O=My CA Ltd., CN=My CA".
>>>
>>> Ah. I like that idea. Rather less than I like the idea of fixing the
>>> need for ritual compliance, though.
>>
>> +1
>
> While I agree that lack of a CA certificate with the matching naming
> really doesn¹t matter, breaking name chaining seems like an odd way to
> maintain ³ritual compliance".  Why not bump the version number instead?
> v4 could be defined as a pre-certificate containing a poison extension and
> a serial number that matches its v3 counterpart.

Hi Carl.  I briefly discussed the idea of changing the version number 
with Ben a few months ago...

Rob: "More wacky idea...
I wonder if we could get away with putting 0x4354 in the certificate's 
Version field.  That might be enough to place it out-of-scope of 
RFC5280, and therefore out-of-scope of the duplicate serial number rule. 
  Probably more likely to break something though."

Ben: "I imagine it'd be hard to coerce most s/w to do this."

Also, I don't suppose IETF has the authority to define new X.509 
versions anyway.

-- 
Rob Stradling
Senior Research & Development Scientist
COMODO - Creating Trust Online