Re: [Trans] Threat model outline, attack model

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Sat, 27 September 2014 02:38 UTC

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Tao Effect wrote:

> The post does not discuss gossip because, to my understanding, the details of gossip have
> still not been fully agreed upon and specified in the RFC. Once they are, I will be very
> interested to re-evaluate what sort of impact might have.

It would be even better it you would be part of the discussion here on
the trans working group to ensure the gossip protocol is implemented
in a way that is secure and useful to everyone, including yourself.

Paul