Re: [Trans] [dane] Manipulation of DNSSEC by US government possible?

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Thu, 31 July 2014 19:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Trans] [dane] Manipulation of DNSSEC by US government possible?
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> That's what transaparancy for DNSSEC is about that is being discussed in
> the trans working group now. It's stil in the preliminairy stages, and
> likely will take a back seat to the more urgent certificate transparency
> which needs an audit log much more than DNSSEC.

And which is a good chance to remind everyone that this topic is
off-topic here.  This should be discussed there [trans].

Nico
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