Re: [trill] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-trill-irb-13: (with COMMENT)
Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Tue, 05 July 2016 13:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [trill] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-trill-irb-13: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks! I had a quick look and this looks good to me. Also on the 2. point below, I know understand why there is a SHOULD; you potentially could add one more sentence to explain why this is a SHOULD. But I leave this on you. Mirja On 05.07.2016 15:35, Donald Eastlake wrote: > Hi Mirja, > > A -14 version has been uploaded that is intended to resolve your comment. > > Thanks, > Donald > =============================== > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA > d3e3e3@gmail.com > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Mirja, >> >> Thanks for your comments. See below. >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote: >>> Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for >>> draft-ietf-trill-irb-13: No Objection >>> >>> ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> COMMENT: >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Two minor comments: >>> >>> 1) There are only a few SHOULDs and MUSTs in this whole document >>> and where they are used it is often not very clear what the action >>> is that should follow and how it should be implemented >>> (e.g. "The network operator MUST ensure the consistency of the >>> tenant ID on each edge RBridge for each routing domain."). >>> And maybe there are actually more case where normative >>> language should be used? >>> Please double-check the use of normative language in this document! >> >> OK. >> >>> 2) A similar question on the following part: >>> „If a tenant is deleted on an edge RBridge RB1, RB1 SHOULD re- >>> advertise the local tenant Data Label, tenant gateway MAC, and >>> related IP prefixes information of the rest tenants to other edge >>> RBridges. […] Therefore the transient routes consistency won't >>> cause issues other than wasting some network bandwidth.“ >>> Wasting network resources actually can be an issue. >>> So why is this not an MUST? >> >> Wasting bandwidth can be an issue but is not necessarily an issue, >> particularly if it occurs only during a brief transient period. TRILL >> does not make it mandatory to implement with the maximum link >> utilization efficiency. For example, TRILL multi-destination traffic >> is send over a distribution tree. If there are no devices interested >> in traffic in a particular VLAN further down a branch of the tree, it >> is recommended that traffic heading down that branch be pruned. But >> this is not mandatory. The TRILL campus will operate "correctly" >> without such pruning and if someone wants to make a very simple, low >> end implementation without pruning, so be it. (As far as I know, all >> existing TRILL implementation do prune distribution trees.) >> >> Thanks, >> Donald >> =============================== >> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) >> 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA >> d3e3e3@gmail.com >
- Re: [trill] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on dra… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [trill] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on dra… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on dra… Donald Eastlake
- [trill] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-i… Mirja Kuehlewind