Re: [trill] TRILL deployment

Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> Fri, 27 May 2016 11:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [trill] TRILL deployment
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110% agree

It's the vendor implemented tools that are primarily at issue. 

Jon

> On May 26, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Main issue that I know from customers is the lack of consistent tools to deep dive debug it.
> 
> It seems to me that this is a lack of user tools, not any inherent
> problem with TRILL. TRILL has:
> TRILL OAM (continuity fault management): RFCs 6905, 7174, 7455, 7784
> MIBs: RFCs 6850, 7784
> Supports BFD: RFC 7175
> Has performance monitoring specified: RFC 7456
> 
> In addition, if a management station peers as an RBridge, it would
> have direct access to the link state data base.
> 
> So I really don't see why there should be a problem with implementing
> good TRILL debugging tools.
> 
> Thanks,
> Donald
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> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
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>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2016, at 12:01 AM, devon ietf <devon.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> why is trill not so widely deployed. It's been around for several years and xSTP protocols
>> are really bad, then too i don't see customers adopting TRILL as widely. what's wrong ?
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