[trill] Fwd: How Trill works step by step?
Donald Eastlake <firstname.lastname@example.org> Fri, 11 July 2014 18:44 UTC
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Subject: [trill] Fwd: How Trill works step by step?
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I got a query message recently which I am reposting with permission in an edited form on the theory that it might be of interest to one or more other people on the list. Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA firstname.lastname@example.org > I need guidance from you. I will try to answer your questions but there are lots of things in TRILL that are implementation dependent. That is, TRILL lets the implementor decide what they want to do. > ->Unable to understand exact Trill step by step process. > E.g. Suppose we have developed Trill program and run it on different > machines.Then what happened 1st ,Is LSP or ESADI start first? -> Db > creation -> Rbridge election(How to set priority? any fixed process ot > depends on user settings? ) -> etc ? The first thing that happens on a link is any link set-up that is needed. For example, on a PPP link (RFC6361), you need to negotiate that you will be using TRILL. However, if you have Ethernet links (RFC 6325), which are probably the most common type, there isn't any link set-up needed. Then TRILL IS-IS Hellos get exchanged on the link (RFC 7177). Optionally, you might also exchange MTU-probe/ack PDUs (RFC 7177), BFD PDUs (RFC 7175), or other link test packets. But all these other things are optional. Only Hellos are required. TRILL doesn't send anything else on the link until the link gets out of the Down or Detect states (RFC 7177). If a link is configured as a point-to-point link, there is no DRB election. By default, an Ethernet link is considered a LAN link and the DRB election occurs when the link is in any state other than Down. You don't have to configure priorities for each TRILL switch (RBridge) to be DRB. Things will work fine with all the RBridges on a link using default priority. But if the network manager wants to control this, they should be able to configure the priorities to be DRB. (To avoid complexity, I'm generally describing things for a link which only has two TRILL switches on it. But TRILL works fine as currently specified on a broadcast link with multiple TRILL switches on it - actually multiple TRILL switch ports since a TRILL switch can have multiple ports connected to the same link. The most likely way to get such a link with current technology is to have more than 2 TRILL switch Etherenet ports connected to a bridged LAN. Since the TRILL protocol operates above bridging, to the first approximation, the bridge LAN looks like a single transparent broadcast link to TRILL.) When the link gets to the 2-Way or Report state, then LSPs, CSNPs, and PSNPs start to flow on the link. When it gets to the Report state, then there is adjacency. The existence of that adjacency is flooded (reported) to the campus in LSPs. TRILL data packets can then start to flow on the link as TRILL switches recalculates the least cost paths and distribution trees to take the new adjacency into account. (Until it gets to the Report state, there is no adjacency and no TRILL data can flow over that link (with the minor corner case exception that an RBridge Channel message can, for its first hop, be sent on a port where there is no adjacency (RFC 7178, Section 2.4).) (Although this paragraph seems to be talking about link state, it is actually port state. It is possible for TRILL switch ports on a link to be in different states. The adjacency state machinery runs independently on each port.) ESADI is built on top of the regular TRILL routing. Since ESADI PDUs look, to transit TRILL switches, like regular TRILL data packets, no ESADI PDUs can flow until adjacencies are established and TRILL data is flowing. Of course, ESADI is optional and is not used unless configured... > ->Does It required Trill Full header at the time of Trill-LSP starting to > broadcast itself on link?Because at that time its not defined Egress and > Ingress nicknames. Well, I think that in most implementations, a TRILL switch will start up using the same nickname it had when it shut down or last got disconnected from a campus. If you want, you can implement TRILL to come up initially not reporting any nickname until you get the link state database or most of the link state database, and then choose a nickname no other TRILL switch in the campus is using. Of course, if a TRILL switch does not have a nickname, then it cannot ingress data, cannot egress known unicast data, and cannot be a tree root. TRILL IS-IS and LSPs and the link state data base all work based on the 7-byte IS-IS System-ID (sometimes called the LAN ID). System-IDs always have to be unique across the campus. The Nickname system is built on top of that. > ->What are the port nos in trill? Port numbers are just arbitrary 16-bit numbers assigned by a TRILL switch to its ports. The only requirements are that the numbers be stable and that no two ports on the same TRILL switch have the same port number. I believe they are only needed for some complex cases involving duplicated port MAC addresses. For example, if a TRILL switch with Ethernet ports uses the same MAC address for all of its ports (not recommended) and two or more of those ports are connected to the same link, the TRILL port number in the Hellos sent on those ports are the only way for some other receiver to tell them apart. (If multiple TRILL ports on a LAN link have the same MAC address, all but one of them will be put in the Suspended state (RFC 7177).) The port number (or Port ID as it is called in TRILL) appears in the Special VLANs and Flags TLV (RFC 7176) that must appear in TRILL Hellos.
- [trill] Fwd: How Trill works step by step? Donald Eastlake