Re: [trill] Adoption? draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01: Idea thought up after -00

Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Sat, 16 July 2016 14:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [trill] Adoption? draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01: Idea thought up after -00
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Sue,

OK - will look out for you and Donald and try and make sure we're all in 
a corridor with identical space-time coordinates at some point.

I'm interested to see if anyone will implement ECN support in trill.
So, I'm hoping that adoption might make it easier for an implementer to 
make the case for working on this.



Bob

On 16/07/16 06:02, Susan Hares wrote:
>
> Bob:
>
> This is exciting work .    It is good to get it into WG adoption . 
> Let’s chat early in the week so we can determine if when we should 
> start the WG adoption call.
>
> Sue
>
> *From:*trill [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Briscoe
> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2016 4:11 PM
> *To:* trill@ietf.org; trill-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> *Cc:* Donald Eastlake
> *Subject:* [trill] Adoption? draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01: Idea 
> thought up after -00
>
> Sue & Jon (as trill chairs) and TRILLers generally,
>
> I'm not familiar with custom & practice in the TRILL WG, but is it 
> appropriate to discuss adoption of this draft yet?
>
> *Background:
> *ECN was added to IP in 2001 (Proposed Std) and is now finally 
> starting to happen. Network support is confined to data centres at the 
> mo. And bottlenecks on the public Internet including IXPs need to be 
> next. Hence the need for a spec of how to support ECN in TRILL.
>
> *Status:
> *Some of you will recall in Buenos Aires Donald & I presented 3 ways 
> of solving the problem of supporting ECN in TRILL.
> #1 violated layering , so was summarily rejected.
> #2 was the only one written up in draft-00
> #3 was much better, but only thought up after we submitted draft-00.
>
> In draft-01, we've completely replaced solution #2 with the preferred 
> solution #3.
> There are no holes in the text now - it's nice and simple and all 
> ready to go.
>
> It's fairly terse, so it might need more explanation.
> Pls read, comment, bash.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Bob
>
> On 08/07/16 17:58, Donald Eastlake wrote:
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>     --------- Forwarded message ----------
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>     From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>
>     Date: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM
>     Subject: New Version Notification for
>     draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01.txt
>     To: "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" <d3e3e3@gmail.com
>     <mailto:d3e3e3@gmail.com>>, Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net
>     <mailto:ietf@bobbriscoe.net>>
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>     A new version of I-D, draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01.txt
>     has been successfully submitted by Donald E. Eastlake and posted
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>     IETF repository.
>
>     Name:           draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support
>     Revision:       01
>     Title:          TRILL: ECN (Explicit Congestion Notification) Support
>     Document date:  2016-07-08
>     Group:          Individual Submission
>     Pages:          18
>     URL:
>     https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01.txt
>     Status:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support/
>     Htmlized:
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01
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>     https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-eastlake-trill-ecn-support-01
>
>     Abstract:
>        Explicit congestion notification (ECN) allows a forwarding
>     element to
>        notify downstream devices, including the destination, of the
>     onset of
>        congestion without having to drop packets. This document
>     extends this
>        capability to TRILL switches, including integration with IP ECN.
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