[trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independent submission
Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Thu, 18 October 2012 03:23 UTC
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Subject: [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independent submission
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Hi, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mme-trill-fcoe/ was briefly presented to the TRILL WG at the Quebec City IETF-81 meeting. I'll paste an extract from the minutes at the end of this email. There have been three references to this draft on the TRILL WG mailing list (before this message), none of which produced any response: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg01473.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg01489.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg01643.html The draft is being processed by the RFC Independent Submissions Editor and is awaiting a determination by the IESG as to whether the draft does or does not conflict with ongoing work in the IETF such as that of the TRILL WG. Based on the current state of the IESG ballt (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/conflict-review-mme-trill-fcoe/ballot/), I request further WG discussion of whether or not this draft should be a TRILL WG draft and whether or not it conflicts with work in the TRILL WG. Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com Extract from Minutes of TRILL WG at IETF-81: FCoE over TRILL, David Melman (Marvell), Tal Mizrahi (Marvell) draft-mme-trill-fcoe-00.txt (very limited time because earlier presentations and discussion ran over) Tal Mizrahi (Marvell): This draft is intended for informational. ... selected slides ... Anoop Ghanwani: Are you changing the TRILL header hop-by-hop. Donald: The frame is being TRILL encapsulated and decapsulated at each hop. Anoop: So the TRILL Header isn't doing anything. The whole path is computed by FCSP. If you are running both control planes, why have the TRILL Header at all. Tal: There is a slide on that: not all RBridges are FCRBs. In that case, you still want the TRILL clouds to do optimal routing. Puneet Agarwal (Broadcom): I don't see what this does other than state the obvious. FCoE is running over TRILL. Why do you need a draft for that? Tal: We are just showing how they work together. Puneet: So, should I do a draft on IP routing over TRILL? Donald: It is a little different because you would normally have the routers at the edge but here you have the Fiber Channel devices distributed throughout the TRILL cloud with a savings in cabling and cabinetry. If the FC is external to the TRILL cloud, then typically you have to transit the TRILL cloud twice. So, it is a way of doing it. If you think this draft has no value, so be it. If the WG thinks that way, then it shouldn't be a working group draft. Puneet: OK. I don't think it should be a working group draft. Donald: Well, we are out of time. Thanks everyone and see you in Taiwan.
- [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independent su… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independen… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independen… Jon Hudson
- Re: [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independen… Pat Thaler
- Re: [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independen… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] draft-mme-trill-fcoe as an independen… Liyizhou