Re: [trill] Any comments on Coordinated Multicast Trees (CMT) for TRILL - draft-ietf-trill-cmt-00

"Rohit Watve (rwatve)" <rwatve@cisco.com> Thu, 16 August 2012 02:12 UTC

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From: "Rohit Watve (rwatve)" <rwatve@cisco.com>
To: Mingui Zhang <zhangmingui@huawei.com>, Sunny Rajagopalan <sunny.rajagopalan@us.ibm.com>, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org>
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I have read the draft and it solves the RPF issues in case of active-active edge.
I support it in WG last call.

Thanks
Rohit

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Subject: Re: [trill] Any comments on Coordinated Multicast Trees (CMT) for TRILL - draft-ietf-trill-cmt-00


I had read this draft.



IMO, the updated version focus on the specific RPFC issue in active-active multi-homing. The failure recovery from links fails  can be regarded as another common issue of active-active multi-homing, which may  be handled in a separate ID.

Thanks,
Mingui

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Subject: Re: [trill] Any comments on Coordinated Multicast Trees (CMT) for TRILL - draft-ietf-trill-cmt-00

I had sent out comments on this a while back, and none of them have been addressed.
To summarize the issues:
1) What happens when one of the CE-rbridge links fails? The draft doesn't talk about this scenario. I listed the possible solutions in my earlier email; are the authors planning to adopt one of them, or do they have another fix in mind?

2) The solution doesn't work if the CE switches are interconnected, but this is but this is not documented in the draft. What happens if they get interconnected accidentally? What is the process for recovery? This needs to be discussed in the draft.
More details here:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg04984.html




From:        Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org>
To:        "trill@ietf.org" <trill@ietf.org>
Date:        08/15/2012 03:14 PM
Subject:        [trill] Any comments on Coordinated Multicast Trees (CMT) for TRILL        - draft-ietf-trill-cmt-00
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We are trying to understand if this document is getting close to WG last
call, but we don't know how many have read the document.

If you have reviewed the document, please let us know.
If not, this might be a good time to review the document and provide
comments.

Thanks,
   Erik and Donald
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