Re: [trill] TRILL deployment

Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> Sat, 04 June 2016 21:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [trill] TRILL deployment
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Agreed on OEM chipset support, I would add good chipset support for multicast as well.

And you are right, we have many significant deployments.  I know of one small vendor with over 2500 customers deployed. 

Jon


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> On Jun 4, 2016, at 9:12 AM, sujay gupta <sujay.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chipset support for OAM offload is another impending problem.
> That said we have seen successful deployments of TRILL in large networks
> Regards,
> -Sujay
> 
>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 110% agree
>> 
>> It's the vendor implemented tools that are primarily at issue.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> > On May 26, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Main issue that I know from customers is the lack of consistent tools to deep dive debug it.
>> >
>> > It seems to me that this is a lack of user tools, not any inherent
>> > problem with TRILL. TRILL has:
>> > TRILL OAM (continuity fault management): RFCs 6905, 7174, 7455, 7784
>> > MIBs: RFCs 6850, 7784
>> > Supports BFD: RFC 7175
>> > Has performance monitoring specified: RFC 7456
>> >
>> > In addition, if a management station peers as an RBridge, it would
>> > have direct access to the link state data base.
>> >
>> > So I really don't see why there should be a problem with implementing
>> > good TRILL debugging tools.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Donald
>> > ===============================
>> > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>> > 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
>> > d3e3e3@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> Jon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On May 26, 2016, at 12:01 AM, devon ietf <devon.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> why is trill not so widely deployed. It's been around for several years and xSTP protocols
>> >> are really bad, then too i don't see customers adopting TRILL as widely. what's wrong ?
>> >>
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