Re: Draft agenda uploaded

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Wed, 07 March 2018 18:12 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 10:12:54 -0800
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Subject: Re: Draft agenda uploaded
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
<ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> no, this is more a topic that we as the AD would like to discuss with the community as we see more and more work that adds TCP encapsulation to all kind of protocols for middlebox traversal issues.
).

So this is encapsulating protocols over TCP then (as opposed
encapsulating TCP and other transports over UDP like in
draft-herbert-transports-over-udp-01

Does this discussion have anything to do with STT
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davie-stt/)?

Thanks,
Tom

>
> Mirja
>
>> Am 07.03.2018 um 17:56 schrieb Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2018 8:16 AM, "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we plan to have a short (1h) TSV area meeting in London and are scheduled for
>>
>> tsvarea Session 1 (1:00:00)
>>    Monday, Afternoon Session III 1740-1840
>>    Room Name: Sandringham size: 300
>>
>> We just uploaded the planned agenda:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-tsvarea
>>
>> Besides the usual updates and status report, we are planning for a discussion about TCP encapsulation with a corresponding presentation about experience with TCP encapsulation for IKE.
>>
>> Mirja,
>>
>> Is there a draft or RFC for TCP encapsulation that is being discussed?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> See you all in London!
>>
>> Mirja and Spencer
>>
>