Re: [Congress] [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis-00.txt

Dave, I'd be curious to know what you think is the proper shape for either
of the problems that you pose.  Both have deep ambiguities/conflicts in the
definition of correct, in the sense that solutions that would be considered
optimal by some audiences call for behaviors that would be considered
anti-optimal by others.

Thanks,
--MM--
Evil is defined by mortals who think they know "The Truth" and use force to
apply it to others.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 9:16 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> wow! what a blast from the past, and what sadness I felt when
> stumbling across Sally Floyd's name in the credits.
>
> My primary comment is that I wish somehow, in the IETF, we attempted
> to address the congestion control problems our wireless transports
> have, as that seems to be the principal means of users' access to the
> internet.
>
> Secondary comment is what I always harp on, in aiming for an internet
> that can safely and reliably transport videoconferencing and gaming
> traffic while duking it it out with more aggressive capacity seeking
> traffic.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 7:41 AM Scheffenegger, Richard <rs.ietf@gmx.at>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > In order to facilitate the github based editorial process of a revised
> > RFC5033 document that outlines the current best practises when it comes
> > to designing new congestion control mechanisms, I want to invite
> > everyone who has commented across various lists and in meetings, to
> > raise issues and contribute text here:
> >
> >
> > https://rscheff.github.io/rfc5033bis
> >
> > https://github.com/rscheff/rfc5033bis/issues
> >
> >
> > As the home for this work has not yet fully formed yet, I created this
> > as an individual draft. There are no text changes in rfc50333bis-00
> > compared to rfc5033, only minor editorial changes due to the use of
> > markdown for the body of the document.
> >
> > A number of individuals have already expressed their interest in
> > contributing improvements to this document. I am looking forward to
> > those contributions - either as issues and discussion points, or as
> > concrete text snippets - in order to reflect the current best
> > understanding of the congestion control environment.
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Richard Scheffenegger and posted to
> > the IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:           draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis
> > Revision:       00
> > Title:          Specifying New Congestion Control Algorithms
> > Document date:  2023-02-17
> > Group:          Individual Submission
> > Pages:          11
> > URL:
> >
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis-00.txt
> > Status:
> >
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis/
> > Html:
> >
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis-00.html
> > Htmlized:
> >
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-scheffenegger-congress-rfc5033bis
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >     The IETF's standard congestion control schemes have been widely shown
> >     to be inadequate for various environments (e.g., high-speed
> >     networks).  Recent research has yielded many alternate congestion
> >     control schemes that significantly differ from the IETF's congestion
> >     control principles.  Using these new congestion control schemes in
> >     the global Internet has possible ramifications to both the traffic
> >     using the new congestion control and to traffic using the currently
> >     standardized congestion control.  Therefore, the IETF must proceed
> >     with caution when dealing with alternate congestion control
> >     proposals.  The goal of this document is to provide guidance for
> >     considering alternate congestion control algorithms within the IETF.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >
>
>
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>
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