Re: Announcing the TSVAREA session on "Evolution of IETF Transport Protocols" @ IETF-88

Martin Stiemerling <mls.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 31 October 2013 18:13 UTC

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Hi all,

As promised a few more words about this part of the TSVAREA session in 
Vancouver:

The intention of this "Evolution of IETF Transport Protocols" part is to 
test the waters if the IETF transport protocols are 'on track' of what 
is needed by today's hosts and applications -- and what's happening in 
the network.

There are a number of activities around, see below, that propose changes 
to, for instance, TCP, and also new transport protocol proposals. There 
is also an on-going collaboration between the Transport Area and the 
HTTPbis working group with respect to HTTP/2.0.

We will tackle a few of the proposals in the session, but there is no 
restricition to those. Here they are in no particular order:

- The Saratoga protocol & interesting things out of this for the 
evolution of transport protocols (Presenter: Wes Eddy)
- Functional decomposition of the transport layer (Presenter: Jana Iyengar)
- TCP Crypt (Presenter: Andre Bittau)
- IETF-43 Requirements for Unicast Transport/Sessions (ruts) bof 
(Presenter: Spencer Dawkins)


Not well that there is also a presentation about the QUIC protocol just 
before this discussion.


Note even better:
The session does not need to deliver answers to any question that comes 
up, but is solely intended as a starting point for further activites, if 
needed, or just to note that we have talked about it, but everything is 
just fine and we can carry on.

Thank you,

   Martin

On 10/23/2013 09:12 AM, Martin Stiemerling wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We would like to give time to the Transport Area to discuss any
> potential need to evolve the IETF transport protocols.
>
> There are a number of proposals discussed in the IETF and outside of the
> IETF on changing parts of TCP (e.g. laminar TCP [1]), reusing parts of
> TCP (e.g., TCP Minion [2]), completely new transport protocols (e.g.
> QUIC [3]), and also discussions about the congestion control approach to
> be used (e.g., delay-based [4], LEDBAT [5]).
>
> (We are fully aware that this list of proposals is incomplete)
>
> Spencer and I are planning a slot in the TSVAREA session at IETF 88 in
> Vancouver to discuss this topic.
>
> More information to come soon.
>
> Let Spencer and me know at tsv-ads@tools.ietf.org if you are interested
> in contributing actively to the session.
>
> Thanks,
>
>    Spencer and Martin, your TSV ADs.
>
> References
> [1] https://developers.google.com/speed/protocols/tcp-laminar
> [2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iyengar-minion-concept
> [3]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RNHkx_VvKWyWg6Lr8SZ-saqsQx7rFV-ev2jRFUoVD34/edit?pli=1
>
> [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/rmcat/charter/
> [5] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ledbat/charter/