Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-03
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From: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-03
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Hi Randy, Wake-up call received. Can you refresh the draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-03 document and I'll launch WGLC on that document. Can you refresh " draft-ymbk-lsvr-l3dl-signing " and " draft-ymbk-lsvr-l3dl-ulpc" and we'll launch a WG adoption call. Brgds, G/ -----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 00:45 To: Joerg Ott via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Cc: tsv-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl.all@ietf.org; lsvr@ietf.org Subject: Re: Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-03 wow! thanks! great review. unfortunately the wg has gone dormant, so we have let the l3dl drafts expire. should it ever wake up, i will happly merge in your excellent suggestions. again, thank you! randy > Reviewer: Joerg Ott > Review result: Ready with Issues > > The draft describes a peer/neighbour discovery mechanisms for > large-scale L2/L3 topologies in data centres. The aim is provide a > protocol by means of which the involved nodes can learn about other > nodes connected to their (broadcast or > point-to-point) L2 links and about their respectively support > encapsulation schemes, identifiers, L2/L3 addresses, etc. This > information is then provided to a higher layer for further processing. > > The document is well written and fairly easy to follow, but could > benefit from a bit of extra context and target application domain in > the introduction. E.g., explaining explicitly who would talk L3DL to whom. > > >From a transport perspective, I see three potential issues that > >deserve > clarification or reconsideration: > > 1. Section 10 spells out a default HELLO interval of 60 seconds. With > a large broadcast domain, this may create quite a bit of traffic. > While this may not be an issue in well-provisioned data center > networks, a remark about sensible value ranges and the implications > may be worthwhile. Just to provide some guidelines to implementers > (who want to offer choices) and operators (who pick them). > > 2. Section 10 also suggest that in response to HELLO messages nodes > will issue OPEN PDUs to newly discovered peers. This appears to bear > the clear risk of an OPEN implosion when many system come up at the > same time. Shouldn't guidance be given to avoid repeated traffic > surges and possible losses and thus unnecessary delays? (I noted that > other places foresee exponential backoff when retransmitting OPEN and other ACKed PDUs). > > 3. When the protocol applies fragmentation, should there be a note on > preventing bursts? > > Other notes: > Section 7 on the checksum needs more detail. It also talks about a "suggested" > algorithm but this should be clearly mandated or way to choose one by > means of configuration for a complete data centre would need to be > made explicit. I also assume that the pseudo code on p.11 would > benefit from a leader '0' in 0xffffffff -> 0x0ffffffff, otherwise > expansion to 64 bits might fill the high order bits with '1's, which is clearly not intended. > > Section 11, p.17, second to last para ("If a properly > authenticated..."). From the text, it is unclear what is meant by an > "OPEN with the Serial Number of the last data received". > > I am curious about the error code, providing 16 bits for additional > explanation. Why not a text field? Also wondering if repeated retries > (due to failure, not lost packets) could yield fast repeated transmissions. > > Section 15, should the KEEPALIVE interval have suggested (lower) bounds? > At the top of p.26, it says "One per second is the default", the > previous page at the bottom refers to the inter-KEEPALIVE interval of > ten seconds. Not sure if the two are the same, I suppose so. If they are, the numbers should match. > If they are not, we'll need some extra text to explain the difference. > > Nits: > There are two spellings of "Encapsulation", capitalised and lower > case. Use one consistently. p10, first para: comprise -> comprising > > >
- [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-lsvr-… Joerg Ott via Datatracker
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Joerg Ott
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Rob Austein
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Joerg Ott
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Joerg Ott
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Joerg Ott
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Joerg Ott
- Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart early review of draft-ietf-l… Randy Bush