[Tsv-art] Stuff I hope that we talk about tonight at the TSV dinner

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 25 March 2019 11:02 UTC

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Subject: [Tsv-art] Stuff I hope that we talk about tonight at the TSV dinner
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>From time to time, the ADs have sent out topics for dinner conversations,
and my understanding is that Mirja has arranged for a dinner location that
allows conversations tonight, so we shouldn't waste that opportunity.

Here are my suggestions.

At the TSVAREA meeting, the ADs are going to point out that we dragooned
Magnus into serving a third term (after time to heal from his first two
terms), but Magnus plans to serve only one term, and Mirja finishes her
second term next year, and both ADs are funded by Ericsson. ISTM that TSV
might

   - try taking hostages or other extreme measures to dragoon "willing"
   nominees to serve next year (note that I will be un-dragoonable), as we
   have done in tthe