Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Wed, 05 December 2018 03:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06
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> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-05 14:18, Joe Touch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 4:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. But extension headers were explicitly defined to be from end system
>>> to end system, not for middleboxes. So that difficulty was designed in.
>> 
>> Not HBH ones...
> 
> Indeed, which is why RFC 7045 changed the requirement.
> 
>    Brian

Except it didn’t. The bits are still there in 8200 and 7045 never deprecated their meaning.  

Joe