Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-02: 19th March 2013
Randy Stewart <randall@lakerest.net> Fri, 19 April 2013 12:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-02: 19th March 2013
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Nishida-san: Sorry for the later reply.. just catching up on my email. ;-) in-line On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Yoshifumi Nishida wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Michael Tuexen > <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote: >> On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Yoshifumi Nishida wrote: > >>> 2: Because this rule will be checked on every packet transmission, I >>> would like to know if the draft suggests to set I-bit everytime we >>> have a chance or there might be a case where we shouldn't. >> The sender could do it to switch off delayed SACK. However, this >> might not be useful. Therefore, as stated, the sender should set it, >> when he is waiting for an SACK. > > OK. I just wanted to mention that in ideal equilibrium state, we might > need to set I-bit every packet since you'll get an ACK for 1 MSS, > which opens 1 MSS in cwnd. > But, as far as I can think this won't be a problem as the receiver has > a freedom to ignore it if it's necessary. (e.g. too much overhead) I am a little confused here on the above. If I get an ACK for 1 MSS, I then increment my cwnd (say by 1 MSS in Slow start) and also decrease my flight size by the amount acked, 1 MSS, which then allows me to send 2 MSS. In CA if I can only send 1 MSS, then I am a situation where 1 RTT is being sent per RTT. Which means my PBA will have increased one whole cwnd and I again should be able to advance my cwnd by 1 whole segment… so again 2 segments are ready to send… assuming I have them to send. Where I don't have 2 full segments I could see the i-bit but I guess I am missing the scenario in my mind where this would happen.. could be just me this AM ;-) R > > BTW, we might want to set I-bit when we find there's no more packet to > send in buffer after sending a packet, even though > SCTP_SACK_IMMEDIATELY is not used. > Do you have any comment on this? > > Thanks, > -- > Yoshifumi > ----- Randall Stewart randall@lakerest.net
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- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… t.petch
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… t.petch
- WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-source-que… Gorry Fairhurst
- WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-c… Gorry Fairhurst
- Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… John Leslie
- RE: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… philip.eardley
- Re: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… Bob Briscoe
- Re: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… John Leslie
- Re: [tsvwg] Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-iet… Manner Jukka
- [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sc… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Black, David
- [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sc… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Becke, Martin
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Becke, Martin
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Irene Rüngeler
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- [tsvwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immed… gorry
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-i… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Randy Stewart
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Yoshifumi Nishida