Re: [tsvwg] [Ecn-sane] is FQ actually widely deployed?

Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> Mon, 22 July 2019 18:02 UTC

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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:02:00 -0400
Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, Jonathan Foulkes <jfoulkes@evenroute.com>, "ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] [Ecn-sane] is FQ actually widely deployed?
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>>> On 22 Jul, 2019, at 10:14 am, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do we have numbers on how much FQ is actually out there? If we don't,
>>> can we measure it? Anyone know of devices shipping or being designed
>>> that does FQ of some kind?
>> 
>> There's also a large French ISP which has done fq_codel on its last
>> mile for quite some time.
> 
> I am aware of at least two Danish and one Norwegian ISP that have
> deployed FQ-CoDel-based shapers either as their customer shapers in the
> backend or on CPEs.

In Czech, I’m aware at least of two WISPs that use it. It’s a good bet there
are more, as a company has popped up specifically targeting WISPs which
uses passive monitoring and fq_codel to measure and improve customer
qoe. It doesn’t take too much searching to find them.