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[tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gwhiteCL/NQBdraft] Should traffic protection be mandatory to implement? (Issue #48)

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <jason_livingood@comcast.com>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0=40gmx.de@dmarc.ietf.org>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>, "Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com>, "Overcash, Michael (CCI-Atlanta)" <michael.overcash@cox.com>, gwhiteCL/NQBdraft <reply+AB2VULW2XRH6MPK23ABRZQOEVLRFREVBNHHI5USV5Y@reply.github.com>, gwhiteCL/NQBdraft <NQBdraft@noreply.github.com>
Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gwhiteCL/NQBdraft] Should traffic protection be mandatory to implement? (Issue #48)
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> [SM] In the case of an mischieviuos application however that tries to achieve more than its equitable share, the user is not really in control of the decision, unlike when actively configuring priority for an application the users deems important...

The user can uninstall the software. If I install some app and it suddenly makes my computer or network perform poorly, I will uninstall it. This is the case before and after NQB, as we have been saying. 

Scenarios I have heard: 
1. Client software is malicious and tries to flood the LL queue. 
- Unique to LL? No: client software today could create a disruptive flood of traffic. 

2. User tries to maliciously flood the LL queue in their access network connection.  
- Unique to LL? No: users can maliciously flood their connection today.

3. ?

JL

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