Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th November2010

["t.petch" <[e-mail]>]

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From: "Magnus Westerlund" <[e-mail]>
To: "t.petch" <[e-mail]>
Cc: "tsvwg list" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:44 PM
>
> The author team has now edited this issue into our draft version.
> However, after some consideration of IANAs language use we have ended up
> using "assign" and assignment instead of allocation. Then we use
> "assignment request" or "assignment procedure" depending on context. I
> hope that is still satisfactory.

Yes, it is a massive improvement in terms of clarity and readability; thanks for
that.

Tom Petch



> Magnus
>
> t.petch skrev 2010-11-03 16:47:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Magnus Westerlund" <[e-mail]>
> > To: "t.petch" <[e-mail]>
> > Cc: "tsvwg list" <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:46 PM
> >
> >> Hi Tom,
> >>
> >> Apparently your comment from January about the mix of terms was missed
> >> and not addressed.
> >>
> >> If I understand the English terms correctly, what we are describing that
> >> IANA should do is Allocation, i.e. set aside identifiers for particular
> >> usages. We are not giving over the number space to the ones that
> >> request, thus Assignment would be wrong?
> >>
> >> I think we can mostly eliminate one of the terms assignment and
> >> allocation. I think we will have more difficult to get rid of
> >> registration. My personal thinking on this is at least the following
> >> relationship between the terms: A Registrant performs a Registration
> >> (process or request) so that IANA can perform an Allocation of a service
> >> name and possibly ports.
> >
> > Magnus
> >
> > That would address my concern. As you say, assign has more of an overtone
> > of a legal transfer of ownership, which allocate does not (even if my
dictionary
> > defines allocate as assign:-(  There is a lot of assignation in the current
I-D
> > but
> > I think that most of it should be changed.
> >
> > I like too the idea that registration is the request, and that IANA
allocates,
> > and
> > again, there is a lot of registration and I think that most of it should be
> > changed.
> >
> > It is unfortunate that the end result of an allocation by IANA is a registry
but
> > I
> > do not think that that can be helped:-(   Whatever terminology we agree on,
> > I think that the I-D should spell it out early on.
> >
> > I did scan a variety of I-Ds with IANA actions and see IANA allocating,
> > registering
> > and assigning values in registries, with perhaps the last as the most
common,
> > but that does
> > not make it the right choice for me.
> >
> > Tom Petch
>
>
> --
>
> Magnus Westerlund
>
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