Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops - to conclude 24th March 2021

Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> Thu, 25 March 2021 12:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops - to conclude 24th March 2021
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> On 25 Mar, 2021, at 2:19 pm, Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> wrote:
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> There has been talk of a further update to RFC3168 (or RFC8311) to formally deprecate RFC3168 AQMs marking ECT(1) packets.

I assume that would have to be by a PS RFC updating 3168, which would indeed provide a breadcrumb trail that could be followed.  However, I don't see very much support for that idea, so it's simply not going to happen in the immediate future.

 - Jonathan Morton