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Re: [tsvwg] IPR Declarations on draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled

"Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com> Fri, 21 June 2019 21:05 UTC

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From: "Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com>
To: Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] IPR Declarations on draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] IPR Declarations on draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled
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> I've replied to Toke off list cc the chairs, cos I don't think the
> merits of different licence clauses are in scope for this list

With my WG chair hat on, could I ask that people hold off on responding to this while the WG chairs (including yours truly) deal with the offline thread.  Outcome will be summarized here - we're likely to get to a conclusion faster if we don't have to try to follow two parallel threads ...

Thanks, --David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Bob Briscoe
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 5:01 PM
> To: tsvwg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [tsvwg] IPR Declarations on draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled
> 
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> 
> tsvwg,
> 
> On 20/06/2019 13:04, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> >
> >> "Reciprocity" includes retaining the right to assert the Disclosed
> >> Patents against any entity, and its Affiliates, that asserts any
> >> patent(s) that it owns or controls (directly or indirectly) either
> >> against the Covenantor, or any of its Affiliates or any successor in
> >> title to them, or against any products, or portions thereof, of the
> >> Covenantor, its Affiliates or supplied by the Covenantor, or its
> >> Affiliates, to their customers either alone or in combination with
> >> other products.
> > This termination clause is a non-starter.
> 
> I've replied to Toke off list cc the chairs, cos I don't think the
> merits of different licence clauses are in scope for this list. I
> believe Toke has misunderstood, but until we resolve it, I don't think
> tsvwg is the right place for opinions from non-lawyers about legal matters.
> 
> Does the IETF have a list for this type of discussion? I don't think
> ipr-wg@ietf.org or legal@ietf.org are appropriate.
> 
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
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