Re: [tsvwg] [saag] Comments on draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-08.txt

Frode Kileng <> Wed, 06 November 2019 09:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] [saag] Comments on draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-08.txt
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Being involved in discussions in operator communities wrt. "implications 
of encryption" for  years, the following statement from Martin 
summarizes why I also do not support publication of this draft:

On 06/11/2019 05:09, Martin Thomson wrote:
> There is an assumption throughout that the listed practices are privileged and therefore deserving of protection.  No attempt is made to acknowledge that some of these practices are can be harmful in various ways.  No recognition is given to the possibility that involving endpoints might offer alternative methods toward the same ends.

To this list I wold also add a lack of qualification of a perceived 
usefulness and some quantification of how common the practices are.