Re: [tsvwg] [Ecn-sane] is FQ actually widely deployed?

Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> Mon, 22 July 2019 15:20 UTC

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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:20:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] [Ecn-sane] is FQ actually widely deployed?
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> On 22 Jul, 2019, at 10:14 am, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
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> Do we have numbers on how much FQ is actually out there? If we don't, can we measure it? Anyone know of devices shipping or being designed that does FQ of some kind?

Linux and OSX end hosts now routinely run fq_codel by default.  That's an awfully large installed base, both of FQ and of Codel.  It is perhaps worth observing that these are rarely bottlenecks for Internet paths, though they might be for LAN paths.

The IQrouter is probably the best example of a commercial middlebox that does FQ, in this case using Cake.  I hear that it is now being sold in re-branded form to certain large ISPs, but I could be wrong about that.  I've CC'd Jonathan Foulkes for comment.

There's also a large French ISP which has done fq_codel on its last mile for quite some time.

 - Jonathan Morton