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Re: [tsvwg] CALL to revoke last call: Re: Request for working group feedback on draft-kuehlewind-system-ports (6th March, 2020)

Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com> Tue, 18 February 2020 15:08 UTC

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From: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>
To: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] CALL to revoke last call: Re: Request for working group feedback on draft-kuehlewind-system-ports (6th March, 2020)
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] CALL to revoke last call: Re: Request for working group feedback on draft-kuehlewind-system-ports (6th March, 2020)
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Hi all, hi Joe,

A correction from my side (after checking with the secretariat): last call announcements are only sent to ietf-announce and not to last-call. Only the reply-to is set to last-call in order to have the discussion there. This was also a surprise to me and I didn't notice this myself as I apparently filter both in the same folder. I will follow up on this.

However, in conclusion all announcements went out correctly and you should subscribe to ietf-announce to see all last calls!

Mirja



On 18.02.20, 10:41, "tsvwg on behalf of Mirja Kuehlewind" <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mirja.kuehlewind=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

    Hi Joe,
    
    for some reason this only went out to the ietf-announce list and not the last-call list:
    
    https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/C3YU0i15ZSTaYHPMKOe_8sGVmLk
    
    This is a tooling issue as it should have been sent to both. I will tell the secretariat to send it manually and raise a ticket to fix this in future. Thanks for flagging this!
    
    Mirja
    
    
    
    On 18.02.20, 05:38, "tsvwg on behalf of Joseph Touch" <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:
    
        
        
        > On Feb 17, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
        > 
        > Joe,
        > 
        > On 18-Feb-20 12:06, Joe Touch wrote:
        >> I object on process grounds at a minimum and call for its "last calls" 
        >> to be revoked by the sponsoring AD and WG chair as follows:
        >> 
        >> 1) this doc went to "IETF last call" (according to the doc tracker) 
        >> without ever being announced on the IETF-wide last call list
        > 
        > I don't understand what you think is wrong, procedurally.
        > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/C3YU0i15ZSTaYHPMKOe_8sGVmLk
        > is a standard Last Call message, and it's a 4-week last call as required
        > for non-WG documents. As far as I can tell that fully respects RFC2026 etc.
        
        We have a Last Call mailing list. I searched there and found (and still find) nothing. What’s the point of the Last Call list then? 
        
        Joe

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