Re: [tsvwg] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud-19

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Wed, 22 April 2020 19:13 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, "lars@eggert.org" <lars@eggert.org>
CC: "stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.all@ietf.org>, "secdir@ietf.org" <secdir@ietf.org>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud-19
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Hi,

I need to apologize to Stephen Farrell for my statement that the review was 
late. The review was not late.

It was my failure to ensure  to address that particular aspect in the process 
to take it to the IESG. Which resurfaced due my desire to get the draft 
updated before approval.

Regards

Magnus Westerlund

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> Sent: den 22 april 2020 20:08
> To: lars@eggert.org
> Cc: stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie; tsvwg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-
> plpmtud.all@ietf.org; secdir@ietf.org; quic@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud-19
>
> On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 15:03 +0300, Lars Eggert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 2020-4-20, at 16:19, Magnus Westerlund <
> > magnus.westerlund=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> > > You do have a point here. Considering that QUIC transport is not ready, 
> > > I
> > > think
> > > the alternative to have this document hang in RFC-editors queue is to
> > > actually
> > > move Section 6.3 into draft-ietf-quic-transport.
> > >
> > > QUIC WG what do you think of that solution? It would allow draft-ietf-
> tsvwg-
> > > datagram-plpmtud to be published without delays.
> >
> > the chairs discussed this for a bit, and we're a bit hesitant to go this
> > route.
> >
> > IIRC, if both docs have mutual normative references to one another, they
> get
> > clustered and published together anyway. Do we need more?
> >
> > If we actually want to WGLC them together, TSVWG can maybe park -
> plpmtud for a
> > bit?
>
> So, this is basically the last issue before approving the document as a
> proposed
> standard. It has already been through IETF last call, IESG Evaluation. This
> discussion is soley due to a late review.
>
> The document do contain specification for other transport protocols I think
> there are some point in getting it published. However, as long as QUIC WG is
> not
> gone delay to long I personally can have it hanging in the RFC-editor queue. 
> I
> am not expecting any significant change to the QUIC parts (PING and
> PADDING (not
> details) referenced from Section 6.3 in datagram-plpmtud draft.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus Westerlund
>
>
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