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Re: [tsvwg] FQ & VPNs

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Sat, 20 February 2021 01:21 UTC

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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 17:21:45 -0800
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] FQ & VPNs
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It takes an awful lot here for me to bother to reply to a thread.

> Here is an algorithm to find the truth. Take one of your emails, and do a diff with the previous email in the thread. Then the other person's text that you silently deleted (as above) will invariably be the truth.

Here is a better algorithm to find the truth. Purchase any of dozens
of commercial routers today running cake or fq_codel, or the thousands
available via reflash to openwrt/dd-wrt/tomato construct a repeatable
experiment, and publish the code and results. The results from
running, repeatable, code trumps theoretical objections every time.

The evenroute v3 and edgerouter X series are pretty good bases for
experimentation.

Wilful ignorance, and the lack of a willingness to construct
repeatable experiments is not science. If you have a point to make,
make it with a repeatable experiment against running code, please.

Tuning out again.

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> Bob
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