Re: [tsvwg] [iccrg] IETF104 ICCRG TCP Prague presentation

Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> Thu, 04 April 2019 17:29 UTC

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From: Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] [iccrg] IETF104 ICCRG TCP Prague presentation
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On 4/4/19, 4:43 PM, "Jonathan Morton" <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:

    > On 4 Apr, 2019, at 6:37 pm, Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> wrote:
    > 
    > My concern is that the SCE sender gets *zero* benefit from supporting SCE signaling unless the bottleneck link is an FQ link.
    
    Our early results suggest otherwise.  However, I would like to flesh them out before further detailed discussion.
    
 I will be interested to see how this is possible.  When an SCE sender and a non-ECT sender share a single queue, the non-ECT sender will be driving the queue delay to the classic AQM target, and the SCE sender will experience the same queue delay as the non-ECT sender.   I've not been able to imagine a dual queue implementation that can identify SCE senders so that they can achieve reliable ultra-low delay (unless you are suggesting that SCE senders are all required to mark their traffic with a particular DSCP).