Re: [tsvwg] [OPSAWG] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-08, closes 23 October 2019

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Wed, 06 November 2019 08:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] [OPSAWG] TSVWG WGLC: draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-08, closes 23 October 2019
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Hello,
At 06:48 PM 04-11-2019, Joe Touch wrote:
>That only happens if the WG and IESG say this is out of scope for 
>the IETF. I.e., the ISE isn't an end-run.
>
>IMO, given the fact that this is squarely within TSVWG and there's 
>no consensus, the way forward is clear.

The draft is within the scope of the IETF given that it is a Working 
Group draft.

I went through the draft.  In Section 2:

   "To achieve stable Internet operations, the IETF transport community
    has to date relied heavily on the results of measurements and the
    insights of the network operations community to understand the trade-
    offs, and to inform selection of appropriate mechanisms to ensure a
    safe, reliable, and robust Internet (e.g., [RFC1273])."

That statement is backed by a citation to a RFC which pre-dates the IETF.

Is the draft a statement from the transport community or is it 
intended to be a statement from the IETF (as a whole)?  If it is the 
latter, it could be read as building a case against RFC 7258.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy