Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Sat, 28 November 2020 16:00 UTC
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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2020, Jonathan Morton wrote: > At this point, any claim that fq_codel is not widely deployed in > relevant contexts is laughable. What's your definition on "widely deployed"? How many percent of customer access lines and wifi access hops do you believe has fq_codel (or fq anything) enabled on them? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
- [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Pete Heist
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Sebastian Moeller
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- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] feedback and thoughts L4S / SCE Pete Heist