Re: [tsvwg] Suresh Krishnan's No Objection on draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09: (with COMMENT)

Suresh Krishnan <Suresh@kaloom.com> Fri, 22 February 2019 04:22 UTC

Return-Path: <Suresh@kaloom.com>
X-Original-To: tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC831286D8; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:22:51 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=kaloom.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vGbkYfkCCRgQ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:22:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from CAN01-QB1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr660128.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.66.128]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B548E1275F3; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:22:48 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kaloom.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=jkf2o8wOa3WIOee/0EkNiNFX/RT6ub4dLLYS9Aekrgs=; b=NgkFCN2OzVkAWg11O3LuVA71iLFtwkKrnSeaDnQ2c2XXkygSZXmj8Twd80yapIGJbXDfelM1njUGwnsf46HfZrknSa9LlO/9FgN8DcBvDBcyvq+4S5yEM+SCJjNIpOK7d0npACAs806AwY8W9L2e9jFu/eeo+FjGNfIyMjPStYg=
Received: from YTOPR0101MB1819.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (52.132.44.159) by YTOPR0101MB1516.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (52.132.48.158) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1622.19; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:46 +0000
Received: from YTOPR0101MB1819.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::ec4d:1964:860d:d27a]) by YTOPR0101MB1819.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::ec4d:1964:860d:d27a%6]) with mapi id 15.20.1622.021; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:46 +0000
From: Suresh Krishnan <Suresh@kaloom.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>, "tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org" <tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] Suresh Krishnan's No Objection on draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09: (with COMMENT)
Thread-Index: AQHUyYtyBGztSaMx4UC6xvV75p/ufqXrOW2A
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:46 +0000
Message-ID: <EB8E9462-4CCE-453F-BAE9-1AC1D1B7301D@kaloom.com>
References: <155071254716.20223.14836859439743098437.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <a1372f60-f416-ff2c-9c30-f06dbcdd0bdb@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <a1372f60-f416-ff2c-9c30-f06dbcdd0bdb@gmail.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Suresh@kaloom.com;
x-originating-ip: [45.19.110.76]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: def02528-40df-4af4-ac7f-08d6987d65ad
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(2390118)(7020095)(4652040)(7021145)(8989299)(4534185)(7022145)(4603075)(4627221)(201702281549075)(8990200)(7048125)(7024125)(7027125)(7023125)(5600110)(711020)(4605104)(2017052603328)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:YTOPR0101MB1516;
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: YTOPR0101MB1516:
x-ms-exchange-purlcount: 2
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <YTOPR0101MB15160E4E4F59E0E6EFE3A7EBB47F0@YTOPR0101MB1516.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
x-forefront-prvs: 09565527D6
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(136003)(396003)(39840400004)(366004)(376002)(346002)(51914003)(189003)(199004)(6246003)(102836004)(6916009)(86362001)(2616005)(446003)(11346002)(4326008)(476003)(83716004)(7736002)(6506007)(229853002)(76176011)(81166006)(54906003)(6486002)(71200400001)(68736007)(256004)(6436002)(53546011)(81156014)(8936002)(71190400001)(316002)(508600001)(305945005)(36756003)(82746002)(80792005)(97736004)(66066001)(6306002)(72206003)(6116002)(33656002)(486006)(25786009)(3846002)(966005)(53936002)(2906002)(105586002)(14454004)(6512007)(186003)(8676002)(5660300002)(26005)(99286004)(106356001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:YTOPR0101MB1516; H:YTOPR0101MB1819.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: kaloom.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; YTOPR0101MB1516; 23: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
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 6H33BEr9YehooY8iaOw8MT9rEhU8rXVa9VQE3qZA46yClzwVD4SSbc6rw8ZgSXsdQGxKcJhSM1BHcbk3QFXZ5/McaK/jLWjTRcBNV5qL8tHcDL70Tz0/p/dEhJK9Mzl7aW8dJbG+R04bffBEJRKDpuFIZx16vIxasTPpc2+ynlMozuYs4+d35lBZ7k/NUSlD2e/56VqD7MbMenXs1fO64vmgqKLn/0+6lUFc/TE1PH4neEhRArpbEWZl0pdRV/HiqGJqlZhFqotqxCBiGUBO9ZjgQSEBAX7pNfw20FtkfpI/3waitxygQolXdEccu2E8LbdQXjyUXOuLjGuy+RtjzPacRnGSyKzBePeD6Q9AXSGSAIgO+DnWOxAB5ISS/ZgK57SKVKlFORQVOk0HXH2xgqlvEdOcJnGZLdloIMBFNlQ=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-ID: <AC12DAB68B261C4DB613AC62CEA0D239@CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: kaloom.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: def02528-40df-4af4-ac7f-08d6987d65ad
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 22 Feb 2019 04:22:46.3168 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 47d58e26-f796-48e8-ac40-1c365c204513
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: YTOPR0101MB1516
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/RKRt00Vp_npMic9oea58uYR5Qlw>
Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Suresh Krishnan's No Objection on draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09: (with COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: tsvwg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Transport Area Working Group <tsvwg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tsvwg>, <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tsvwg/>
List-Post: <mailto:tsvwg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg>, <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:51 -0000


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2019-02-21 14:29, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
>> Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09: No Objection
>> 
>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>> 
>> 
>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>> 
>> 
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I was not sure how this behavior in Section 8 is expected to be deployed and
>> used.
>> 
>> "  A DS domain that still uses DSCP CS1 for marking LE traffic
>>   (including Low Priority-Data as defined in [RFC4594] or the old
>>   definition in [RFC3662]) SHOULD remark traffic to the LE DSCP
>>   '000001' at the egress to the next DS domain."
>> 
>> Is the expectation that even on a domain that has not been updated to use the
>> new DSCP there will be some node at the edge that will have been updated? If
>> so, it might be good to explicitly note this. If not, I cannot see how a legacy
>> node will follow this recommendation.
> 
> If the routers involved genuinely follow the diffserv model, in which
> any per-hop behavior can be mapped to any codepoint, all these things
> will be configurable. So if the operator decides to continue using CS1
> internally but conform to the spec externally, they could reconfigure the
> edges accordingly. In other words the legacy is in the configuration,
> not the code.

Thanks for the clarification Brian. That makes perfect sense.

Regards
Suresh