Re: [tsvwg] travel funds for ietf for the next SCE talk?

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 10 May 2019 15:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] travel funds for ietf for the next SCE talk?
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On May 10, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> wrote:
> Maybe there should be a "non-sponsored" registration tier with a discount to help make it affordable for the little guys.

The problem is figuring out a sustainability model for IETF that doesn’t rely on attendance fees and hotel stays.