Re: [tsvwg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09.txt

Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Mon, 04 November 2019 07:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09.txt
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See below.

On 03/11/2019, 21:32, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
> small nit, Page 2:
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> "As discussed in [RFC7258], Pervasive Monitoring (PM) nis a technical"
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> seems to contain a spurious n...
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Excellent - you looked at this - and sorry, we'll fix this and anything 
else people spot in the next rev.

Gorry
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>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 22:09, Gorry Fairhurst<gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>  wrote:
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>> We've just posted a revision following the WGLC comments...
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>> Gorry
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	[tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09.txt
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>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Transport Area Working Group WG of the IETF.
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>>         Title           : Considerations around Transport Header Confidentiality, Network Operations, and the Evolution of Internet Transport Protocols
>>         Authors         : Godred Fairhurst
>>                           Colin Perkins
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09.txt
>> 	Pages           : 47
>> 	Date            : 2019-11-03
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>> Abstract:
>>    To protect user data and privacy, Internet transport protocols have
>>    supported payload encryption and authentication for some time.  Such
>>    encryption and authentication is now also starting to be applied to
>>    the transport protocol headers.  This helps avoid transport protocol
>>    ossification by middleboxes, while also protecting metadata about the
>>    communication.  Current operational practice in some networks inspect
>>    transport header information within the network, but this is no
>>    longer possible when those transport headers are encrypted.  This
>>    document discusses the possible impact when network traffic uses a
>>    protocol with an encrypted transport header.  It suggests issues to
>>    consider when designing new transport protocols, to account for
>>    network operations, prevent network ossification, and enable
>>    transport evolution, while still respecting user privacy.
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>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt/
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>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09
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>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-09
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>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
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>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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