Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1)

Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com> Fri, 15 May 2020 16:42 UTC

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From: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com>
To: Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1)
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I support ECT(1) as an input to the network (option 1).



On 04/05/20 - 14:15:07, Wesley Eddy wrote:

> **

>

> *In this email thread, please state, concisely, which of the following

> viewpoints on ECT(1) you prefer. Please have extended discussion in a

> different thread. If you are uncomfortable sharing your opinion on the list,

> you may email the tsvwg chairs directly (tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>). *

>

> *

>

> If you did not attend the 27 April interim, please watch the meeting video

> [https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ddw3YKyeFxQU&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpravb%40microsoft.com%7Ce45e6a60b2124a1e135d08d7f6a6beac%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637249069222530020&amp;sdata=GjJIOaUiYtslAjECArblaVfwoCirsdB4Bh2dbfQHvkI%3D&amp;reserved=0] for context on this question.

>

>

> 1.

>

>    I support using ECT(1) as an input signal to the network. This is

>    the approach consistent with the current L4S drafts. This position

>    does not mean that there are no remaining issues with L4S, but that

>    the remaining issues can be resolved by continued WG effort on the

>    current drafts.

>

> 2.

>

>    I support using ECT(1) as an output signal from the network. This is

>    consistent with SCE. If you believe L4S will not be safe for the

>    internet without significant architectural changes, you are in this

>    group.

>

> 3.

>

>    There is a specific test or tests I need to see before making a

>    decision about ECT(1). Please be specific about the tests in your

>    response.

>

>

> Please submit your opinion by 5/18/2020.

>

> *

>