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[tsvwg] L4S vs SCE

Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> Tue, 19 November 2019 12:12 UTC

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From: Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>
To: "tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org" <tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>
CC: "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>, "De Schepper, Koen (Koen)" <koen.de_schepper@nokia.com>, "Bob Briscoe (ietf@bobbriscoe.net)" <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>, Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>, "4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net" <4bone@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>
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Subject: [tsvwg] L4S vs SCE
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Hi Chairs + others

I am not convinced that all these L4S vs SCE mail threads will make us any wiser.
 
The first question is around how safe L4S is to deploy on the internet and the proof points for either option differ widely. 

The other question is if we should have another ECN experiment (SCE) at this stage, also here I see that we have vastly differing opinions. 

In both discussion points I see that the discussion is going in circles.
My personal conclusion is that on a technical level it will be real hard to come to an agreement.  

On a more non-technical matter, I have argued (rightly or wrongly) about the connection to work in 3GPP, admittedly so far only proposed work. Others have pointed out work related to WiFi and DOCSIS, how much should this weight in here ?

Are the chairs any wiser ? :-)

/Ingemar
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