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Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com> Tue, 06 June 2023 12:28 UTC

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From: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>
To: Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] WG Call for comments on intended document status for draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp-08, by June 23rd 2023
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Hi Gorry, hi all,

I commented this in the meeting already but my concern is actually about the implementation experience of this protocol.

Also I don’t share the concern about concurrent scheduling. I find it actually rather paradox to develop a multipath protocol but then say it should not use multiple paths concurrently. However, I guess the current text doesn’t really give any recommendation really.

Mirja




From: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
Organisation: UNIVERSITY OF ABERDEEN
Date: Tuesday, 6. June 2023 at 12:59
To: "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Subject: [tsvwg] WG Call for comments on intended document status for draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp-08, by June 23rd 2023

The TSVWG has an active work item to develop a specification for MP-DCCP, and the WG Chairs are considering a request from the editors to publish on the standards track.

This topic was discussed at IETF-115 and IETF-116, and an update was then requested to clarify the position with respect to the use with concurrent multipath scheduling. New text on that topic has been included in the latest draft and the chairs are now asking if there are addional concerns or issues that the working group ought to consider, and specifically any comments on the proposal to publish this on the standards track.

This request for WG Feedback will run for 2 weeks, ending on June 23rd 2023. Please respond to this email thread if you have additional comments on the intended status of the specification.
Best wishes,
Gorry and Marten
(tsvwg co-chairs)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-multipath-dccp/
Expectations for a PS are described in RFC 2026,  Section 4.1.1.

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