[tsvwg] New rev of draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-17

Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Fri, 21 May 2021 09:21 UTC

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Subject: [tsvwg] New rev of draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-17
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Chairs, list,

We've posted a new rev of draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-17 attempting to 
address all the discussion since the last posting just before the 
interim. In particular:
* review comments on a careful read from Gorry and the chairs
* the VPN anti-replay problem
* added an out-of-band test for an RFC3168 ECN AQM in a shared queue.

There are a couple of outstanding discussions, which I'm sure will 
continue on the list, e.g. the role of RFC4774 and whether to remove any 
of Appx C. But it was considered better to get the queued up changes 
out, to re-base the discussions.

This is quite an extensive set of changes, so pls check and pass any 
comments to the list.

Thanks for everyone who is contributing, and particularly to the chairs 
for continuing to referee this all. We've added appropriate thanks in 
the Acks section.


Bob


On 21/05/2021 10:09, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Transport Area Working Group WG of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Protocol for Very Low Queuing Delay (L4S)
>          Authors         : Koen De Schepper
>                            Bob Briscoe
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-17.txt
> 	Pages           : 57
> 	Date            : 2021-05-21
>
> Abstract:
>     This specification defines the protocol to be used for a new network
>     service called low latency, low loss and scalable throughput (L4S).
>     L4S uses an Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) scheme at the IP
>     layer that is similar to the original (or 'Classic') ECN approach,
>     except as specified within.  L4S uses 'scalable' congestion control,
>     which induces much more frequent control signals from the network and
>     it responds to them with much more fine-grained adjustments, so that
>     very low (typically sub-millisecond on average) and consistently low
>     queuing delay becomes possible for L4S traffic without compromising
>     link utilization.  Thus even capacity-seeking (TCP-like) traffic can
>     have high bandwidth and very low delay at the same time, even during
>     periods of high traffic load.
>
>     The L4S identifier defined in this document distinguishes L4S from
>     'Classic' (e.g. TCP-Reno-friendly) traffic.  It gives an incremental
>     migration path so that suitably modified network bottlenecks can
>     distinguish and isolate existing traffic that still follows the
>     Classic behaviour, to prevent it degrading the low queuing delay and
>     low loss of L4S traffic.  This specification defines the rules that
>     L4S transports and network elements need to follow with the intention
>     that L4S flows neither harm each other's performance nor that of
>     Classic traffic.  Examples of new active queue management (AQM)
>     marking algorithms and examples of new transports (whether TCP-like
>     or real-time) are specified separately.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id/
>
> There is also an htmlized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-17
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-17
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>

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