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Some notes below, which will be rolled into v12 to be issued later = today. Joe > On Aug 4, 2025, at 2:40=E2=80=AFPM, Niclas Comstedt via Datatracker = wrote: >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-tsvwg-usr-exp > Title: User Ports for Experiments > Reviewer: Niclas Comstedt > Review result: Has Nits >=20 >=20 > I have reviewed this document as part of the Ops area directorate's = ongoing > effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. = These > comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Ops area = directors. > Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like = any other > last-call comments. >=20 > Summary: The objective and rational along with the proposed solution = of=20 > establishing user space ports for experiments make sense. My only = slight > concern or nits is around the registration language and longevity of = this. > Specifically I find the language in section 4 to be a little less = clear than > ideal around registration encouragement (e.g. the phrasing in first = paragraph > mixing the "bar of registration" with that of encouraging registration = which > comes again later in section 4). That will be emphasized and clarified. > And while I don't think it takes away from > the reason for this I do wonder how experiments move from this to = permanent > solutions (where applicable), i.e. the lack of mentioning it and/or=20 > encouraging registering for permanent ports (which I assume is the = path). Yes, that will be added as well. >=20 > Regards, > Niclas >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_F2EABB33-D77A-405A-BEF2-CB39C4E3E809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi, Niclas,

Thank you for your review.

Some notes below, which will be rolled = into v12 to be issued later today.

Joe

On Aug 4, 2025, at 2:40=E2=80=AFPM= , Niclas Comstedt via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> = wrote:

Document: = draft-ietf-tsvwg-usr-exp
Title: User Ports for = Experiments
Reviewer: Niclas Comstedt
Review result: Has = Nits


I have reviewed this document as part of the Ops area = directorate's ongoing
effort to review all IETF documents being = processed by the IESG.  These
comments were written primarily = for the benefit of the Ops area directors.
Document editors and WG = chairs should treat these comments just like any other
last-call = comments.

Summary: The objective and rational along with the = proposed solution of
establishing user space ports for experiments = make sense. My only slight
concern or nits is around the registration = language and longevity of this.
Specifically I find the language in = section 4 to be a little less clear than
ideal around registration = encouragement (e.g. the phrasing in first paragraph
mixing the "bar = of registration" with that of encouraging registration which
comes = again later in section 4). =

That will be emphasized and = clarified.

And while I = don't think it takes away from
the reason for this I do wonder how = experiments move from this to permanent
solutions (where applicable), = i.e. the lack of mentioning it and/or
encouraging registering for = permanent ports (which I assume is the = path).

Yes, that will be = added as well.


Regards,
=    Niclas



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