Re: [tsvwg] RDMA Support by UDP FRAG Option

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Mon, 21 June 2021 18:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] RDMA Support by UDP FRAG Option
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:17 AM Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:
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> On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:22 AM, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> wrote:
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>> But your claim that “I’ve never seen an error” is like saying “but my [broken] watch is fine because I only look at it twice a day - at 8am each time”.
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> I have NEVER said that, in fact have seen and FIXED many bugs in this area. You are completely misconstruing my words.
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> I was assuming this discussion did not need compilation-level precision.
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> I should have said “never seen *this* error” (of erroneously using the IP length to infer the UDP data length rather than using the UDP length field).
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That would still be wrong with respect to what I actually said. I said
the algorithm I described was provably correct and gave the proof.

> The point remains. Not seeing a bug does not mean the bug does not exist or that the code implements the spec.
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Neither does not seeing a bug mean that there is a bug and the code
does not implement spec correctly. If you want to claim implementation
has a bug, then you'll need to show us the specific reproducible use
case and configuration for the specific implementation that produces
the bug.

Tom

> Joe