[tsvwg] Re: Completed WG Last Call for draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb

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From: Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>
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All, 

I've posted an updated NQB draft (-24) that addresses most of the comments that were received during the WGLC.

Name:     draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb
Revision: 24
Title:    A Non-Queue-Building Per-Hop Behavior (NQB PHB) for Differentiated Services
Date:     2024-07-08
Group:    tsvwg
Pages:    36
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-24.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/
HTML:     https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-24.html
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb
Diff:     https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-24

Comments from Martin Duke:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/W4-h8IqhkGkq0MJ5uwgfJxPm568/
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/299510fd2455f31dbf583da9b1b0e1991b451e6c

Comments from Brian Carpenter:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/3Bf47I_ihdabyJJHfx9-N2l2Pdk/
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/ee1c4f03ef0195189a27d1b200bc0a345ecebd93
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/0b1204dcc7f5ab6dae285815c1dda41c0ee6dab2

Comment from David Black
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/dgwi8EPCpcLDWBCaTbMSzibttE0/
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/92e40f0f41990d2d79d17345cbc6a727891bbc31

Other nits that were sent to me off list by David Black.
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/ab8e742c6db983e3bce2a9b8384fdb8b0ec3e090
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/94e04e6e1c701d591523a33655ab78fa0948bb72

Comments from Benson Muite:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/thJ6d_h4WEV_7Slt5RJYHe145q0/
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/487742ffe32e8723596041ad013e6c69ccd728b8
https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/commit/ab8e742c6db983e3bce2a9b8384fdb8b0ec3e090

There remain five issues that we've not yet resolved, but I will work with the co-authors and submitters to resolve them over the coming weeks.  These have been entered as issues in the GitHub tracker (https://github.com/gwhiteCL/NQBdraft/issues) and we will discuss resolution of them there.

If I've missed any comments (either in the edits that made it into draft-24, or in the issues tracker) please let me know.

Best Regards,
Greg


On 6/11/24, 12:59 AM, "Gorry Fairhurst" <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk <mailto:gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>> wrote:


This email closes a 3 week WG Last Call to determine whether 
draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb was ready for publication. This ended at midnight 
UTC on 10th June 2024 (2024-06-27).


Thank you to all who responded in this WGLC. Approximately 80 messages 
were received, with more than 12 contributors. This included two invited 
reviewers: Thanks David and Brian!


The Chairs note that some people who responded had concerns with using 
the assigned DSCP, and the way in which it is described. We declare the 
WG consensus is to continue with the publication of the specification 
using the assigned DSCP.


This ID needs to be revised as a result of the WGLC. We expect first 
that the editors propose a revised ID that addresses the NiTs and 
comments to improve the document. We then expect the Chairs and Editors 
to list any issues that remain to be resolved as a result of this WGLC, 
and seek to agree wording that can finalise a revision of this document.


Thanks again to all who participated,
Gorry and Marten
(tsvwg co-chairs)