Re: [tsvwg] per-flow scheduling

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Wed, 19 June 2019 14:20 UTC

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From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:20:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] per-flow scheduling
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:13 AM Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> wrote:

> Jake, all,
>
> You may not be aware of my long history of concern about how per-flow
> scheduling within endpoints and networks will limit the Internet in
> future. I find per-flow scheduling a violation of the e2e principle in
> such a profound way - the dynamic choice of the spacing between packets
> - that most people don't even associate it with the e2e principle.
>
> I detected that you were talking about FQ in a way that might have
> assumed my concern with it was just about implementation complexity. If
> you (or anyone watching) is not aware of the architectural concerns with
> per-flow scheduling, I can enumerate them.
>

I would certainly be interested in reading more about these concerns. Even
a reference that I can read out-of-band would be fine. Thanks, Bob.

Kyle