Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-natsupp-16.txt

Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Mon, 27 July 2020 18:48 UTC

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Hi Med,,

> On 27 Jul 2020, at 13:05, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael, 
> 
> Please see inline. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Michael Tuexen [mailto:Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de]
>> Envoyé : dimanche 26 juillet 2020 12:03
>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
>> Cc : tsvwg@ietf.org
>> Objet : Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-natsupp-16.txt
>> 
>>> In any case, I'm afraid you will need to add details such as: amount
>> of time/resources a NAT can wait for out of order fragments. You may
>> reuse some of the text from RFC 6146, including the default frag
>> timeout.
>>> 
>>> * Consider this change to align with REQ-13 of RFC4787:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>>  When an SCTP packet has to be fragmented by the NAT function and
>> the
>>>  IP header forbids fragmentation a corresponding ICMP packet SHOULD
>> be
>>>  sent.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>>  When an SCTP packet has to be fragmented by the NAT function and
>> the
>>>  IP header forbids fragmentation, the NAT MUST send back an ICMP
>> message
>>>  "Fragmentation needed and DF set" to the internal host.
>> Changed to
>> <t>When an SCTP packet has to be fragmented by the NAT function and
>> the IP header forbids fragmentation, the NAT MUST send back a
>> corresponding ICMP message to the internal host.
>> 
>> since it covers IPv4 and IPv6.
> 
> [Med] The wording is IPv4-specifc: "When an SCTP packet ** has to be fragmented **".
> 
> You may consider my initial wording for IPv4 + add a new sentence to cover the IPv6 case.  
> 
> 
What do you think the IPv6 text should say?

Gorry

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