[tsvwg] TSVWG Status Summary - Sept 2018
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Subject: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Summary - Sept 2018
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This is a summary of detailed status of the working group documents as we see it. Please check below and comment on drafts using the list. Authors: Please update your drafts. Please do also send any corrections/omissions to the chairs. Gorry, David and Wes (TSVWG Chairs) Sept 2018 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Documents recently published: RFC 8436 Document Shepherd: David Documents published: RFC 7496 Document Shepherd: Gorry RFC 7605 Document Shepherd: Gorry RFC 7857 Document Shepherd: David RFC 7829 Document Shepherd: Gorry RFC 8084 Document Shepherd: David RFC 8085 Document Shepherd: David RFC 8086 Document Shepherd: David RFC 8100 Document Shepherd: Gorry RFC 8260 Document Shepherd: Gorry RFC 8261 Document Shepherd: Gorry RFC 8325 Document Shepherd: David RFC 8311 Document Shepherd: Gorry ------ IDs in RFC Editor Queue (http://www.rfc-editor.org/queue.html) : draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos - PS - Document Shepherd: David Approved, announcement 8th August 2016 RFC Editor: MISSREF - part of large rtcweb drafts hairball/tarball (C238) - Chairs need to work with AD to request an RFC Ed note to cover the LE PHB --- RFC-Ed ACTIONS: - None ---------------------------------------------------------- IDs in IESG Evaluation: --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc4960-errata - Info - Document Shepherd: Gorry Replaces: draft-tuexen-tsvwg-rfc4960-errata Topic thought to fall within TSVWG charter Support for this work noted in Prague (Aug 2015). Expected to be used as the basis for an update to SCTP base specification. Authors have requested adoption IETF-95 - sense of the meeting room to proceed. IETF-96 - sense of the meeting room to proceed Adopted (22nd August 2016) Please send WGLC comments to the TSVWG list to end Fri 8th Dec 2017. Reviewers: Irene R. - Editorial corrections ka-cheong.poon - Review received Qiaobing Xie - Review received Marcelo Ricardo - reviewed an earlier version, no further comments marcelo.leitner - no further comments Nicholas Wilson: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5202 13th Dec: Chairs will talk to Authors to conclude the WGLC. Revised ID to address document issues raised by Shepherd review (G Fairhurst). R. Stewart: Confirmed No known IPR M. Tuexen: Confirmed No known IPR M. Proshin: Confirmed No known IPR IETF-101: Confirmed consensus to publish. Apr 2018: Gorry: Shepherd writeup of the document, submitted to IESG. Shepherd writeup updated, draft revised. Submitted to IESG for Publication IETF-LC completed as INFO. IESG review with comments. AD/document shepherd comments on section conclusions. DUE: Revised ID needed. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-fecframe-ext - Document Shepherd: Wes replaces - draft-roca-tsvwg-fecframev2 IETF-97 (Seoul), presented - could this be an update rather than bis? Adoption call requested by authors IETF-98 10 people had interest in work on this topic. Reviewers: + Marie-José Montpeti + Emmanuel Lochin + Jonathan Detchart Completed WGLC with comments. Shepherd review completed. Revised ID published. IESG Evaluation --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme - Document Shepherd: Wes replaces - draft-roca-tsvwg-rlc-fec-scheme IETF-98 10 people had interest in work on this topic. Reviewers: + Marie-José Montpeti + Emmanuel Lochin + Jonathan Detchart + Ali Begen Completed WGLC with comments. Shepherd review completed. Revised ID published. IESG Evaluation -------------------------- WG Drafts with Chairs: --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-tunnel-congestion-feedback - Document Shepherd: David Replaces: draft-wei-tsvwg-tunnel-congestion-feedback - Thought to fall within TSVWG charter, comments welcome on tsvwg list. - IETF 91: Authors will work w/Bob Briscoe, who has a related individual draft for conex, on feedback mechanisms. Goal is concrete action taken based on detected problems that can be used from other drafts by reference. Also have to deal with possibility of dropped packets within tunnel. Draft returned to Working Group, will need a second WGLC after it is revised. *** NOTE: 2 IPR declarations relate to the work of this draft *** November 2016: WGLC, but not enough reviews. Two reviewers were found in Seoul (Bob Briscoe, Jake Holland) - need reviews before considering progress. Document with WG Chairs awaiting decision. IETF-101: Don Eastlake and Andy Malis have an SFC load balancing use case for this, will work with authors. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb - PS - Document Shepherd: David Replaces: draft-bless-tsvwg-le-phb A Lower Effort Per-Hop Behavior (LE PHB) Topic thought to fall within TSVWG charter Support for this work noted (Berlin IETF, 2016). An adoption call was started on list by the Chairs until 22nd August 2016, concluded and adopted. Adopted Nov 2016. New rev as a WG item. (Targeting publication as an EXP RFC) IETF-97 (Seoul), presented. IETF-98 (Chicago) discussed choice of code point - awaiting more data, expected decision by Sept 2017 IETF-100 (Singapore) Waiting for process draft to update IANA Registry pool 3 WGLC in progress (revised ID needed) DUE: New -06 version neeed from Roland to complete WGLC. -------------------------- draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-00 - PS - Document Shepherd: David Replaces: draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis Replaces: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040-update Topic thought to fall within TSVWG charter Support for this work noted (Berlin IETF, 2016) - to be published as a pair with ecn encaps. An adoption call was started on list by the Chairs until 22nd August 2016, concluded and adopted. Adopted, intended for publication as a PS RFC) WG work item - new-revision submitted ++ Randal Stewart will review ++ Randal Jessup will review IETF-97 (Seoul) presented Renamed as draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim - 15th Nov 2016. WGLC closed 7 September 2018 Due: Second WGLC with agreed reviewers, WG Chairs to ensure agreed reviewers submit their reviews. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines - BCP - Document Shepherd: David Replaces: draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines -00 Presented in Prague, IETF-80. - comments at IETF-80 (see minutes) New ID presented in Atlanta, IETF-85. ID presented in IETF-88,89 - forward an appropriate message (perhaps your note to the mailing list for approval to adopt) to ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org) ++ Reviewers: Andrew McGregor, Dirk Kutscher, (Richard Sheffnegger), Brian Trammell, Gorry. Mar 2014, WG Call for adoption started, to end 4th March 2014 19 for, 1 against. 8 echoed on the list Adoption call concluded and document adopted. - ecn-encap-guidelines and AQM are the main new things they need to know about. on <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/train-3.html>IEEE802.1Q) Liaison sent to IEEE 802 (Nov 24, 2014). Liaison sent to 3GPP (August 2015) Oct 2015 - Draft updated for Yokohama meetings. Not sure about INT Area presentation. Need some more soak time for 3GPP Liaison. 3GPP liaison statement People who volunteered to review: * Andrew McGregor, Google * Dirk Kutscher, NEC * (I've also just asked Ingemar Johansson to volunteer) Support on list * Matt Mathis, Google * Richard Scheffenegger, NetApp * Michael Welzl, Uni Oslo * Wei Xin Peng, Huawei * Rong Pan, Cisco * Michael Menth, Tubingen Uni * Zhu Lei, Huawei * Piers O'Hanlon, UCL * Philip Eardley, BT * Suresh Krishnan * An Nguyen, DHS/OEC * Vinay Bannai, Paypal * Mirja Kuehlewind, Stuttgart Uni * Ruediger Geib, DT Non-supportive of a doc solely about ECN. * Joe Touch, ISI IETF-98 (Chicago) Chairs will talk to TRILL chairs and try to get both into WGLC. Document waiting for completion of draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim WGLC with 6040update shim draft DUE: WGLC closed 7 September 2018 DUE: Second WGLC with agreed reviewers, WG Chairs to ensure agreed reviewers submit their reviews. -------------------------- WG Drafts: --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-natsupp - PS - Document Shepherd: Gorry Replaces: draft-stewart-natsupp-tsvwg Dependency from BEHAVE WG (no longer applicable). Adopted as a work item 21 Sept 2010 (Gorry). WG -00, 29/11/2010 Uploaded as: draft-ietf-natsupp-tsvwg Authors restructured draft (-03) Added support for single and multi-homed support. IETF-86: 3 people in meeting had read -04 or -05. Feb 2014, Authors please update following comments and align to related draft on SCTP NAT (conflicts found in language) Authors expected to produce a single document to replace both. ++ Dan Wing has committed to review this. ++ Fred Baker has committed to review this. Separated the simpler case for single-homed use - this separation should be clear. March 2015 document restructured and merged with draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpnat March 2015, initial review by Gorry - need to consider helping NAT vendors access the recommendations. Gorry, Karen: Minor NiTs, Scope of IPv4 NAT discussed in Prague IETF and still thought within Charter. Authors expect to complete by May 2018. WG Chair comments pending a WGLC. DUE: Revised ID-needed. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-l4s-arch - Document Shepherd: Wes Replaces draft-briscoe-tsvwg-l4s-arch IETF-96, Previous version discussed at L4S BoF IETF-97 (Seoul), presented. IETF-98 (Chicago) 10 people had red the draft, clear support for adoption. Adopted. IETF-100 (Singapore) update presented - draft is in "holding pattern" while implementations are being worked and tested in conjunction with new scalable congestion control algorithms (e.g. SCReaM and TCP Prague). Linux and simulator code is becoming available, along with at least one chip implementation. DUE: Please discuss and share results on the TSVWG list. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id - Document Shepherd: Wes Replaces draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id New draft Nov-2914: Identifying Modified Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Semantics for Ultra-Low Queuing Delay IETF-96, Previous version discussed at L4S BoF IETF-97 (Seoul), presented. IETF-98 (Chicago) 10 people had red the draft, clear support for adoption. Adopted by tsvwg IETF-100 (Singapore) - See update on draft-ietf-tsvwg-l4s-arch above DUE: Please discuss and share results on the TSVWG list. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-dualq-coupled - Document Shepherd: Wes Replaces: draft-briscoe-aqm-dualq-coupled Currently individual draft, TSVWG will consider this. - requires update to base ECN RFC - see separate draft. *** IPR related to this draft was submitted: September 16, 2015 (Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implementers with Possible Royalty/Fee) *** Updated -01 March 2016, discussed on the AQM WG list. IETF-97 (Seoul), presented, new research results (Nov 2016) IETF-98 (Chicago) 10 people had read the draft, clear support for adoption. Adopted by tsvwg IETF-100 (Singapore) - See update on draft-ietf-tsvwg-l4s-arch above DUE: Please discuss on the TSVWG list. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-options - Document Shepherd: Gorry Replaces: draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options Transport Options for UDP - Presentation at IETF Nov 2015. Topic thought to fall within TSVWG charter Discussed IETF-96 (Berlin) IETF-97 (Seoul) presented - no comments. IETF-98 (Chicago) 5 + 1 from jabber interested in this topic, 1 thought we shouldn't Comments on security model and discussed on list Adoption call until 31st May 2017 - Closed Tom Jones - supports adoption (will try an implementation) Tom Herbert - supports adoption (will review) Mike Heard - supports adoption (will review) D Fawcus - supports adoption (will review) Adopted. DUE: Revised-ID needed: Comments after discussion on list. DUE: Please discuss on the TSVWG list. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud - PS - Document Shepherd: David Replaces: draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud-02 Support noted in INTAREA presentation (IETF-100) Presented in TSVWG, IETF-100 Thought to be within charter of TSVWG. DUE: Dec 2018: Adoption call completed, confirmed on TSVWG list Reviewers: Joe Touch; Wes Eddy; Vincent Roca; Taksim Proshin; Ruediger Geib; DUE: Revised-ID needed: Comments after discussion on list. DUE: Please discuss on the TSVWG list. --- draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt Document Shepherd: David Support noted in INTAREA presentation (IETF-100) Presented in TSVWG, IETF-100 Adoption requested by authors, will be taken up in IETF-102 meeting. Review received from Kathleen Moriarty. Support for adoption indicated during WG meeting in Montreal, confirmed on list. Sept 2018 Adopted. DUE: Please discuss on the TSVWG list. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Drafts under consideration by WG for adoption: None, if you have requests please contact the Chairs. ------------------------------- Other drafts and work items linked to TSVWG: If you think individual documents should appear on the next TSVWG agenda, please contact the chairs. --- draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-udp-encaps-cons - Document Shepherd: N/A. Thought to fall within TSVWG charter. Presented to TSVWG in Buenos Aires (April 2016) Update at Soul IETF (Nov 2016) This list or errata will not be published as a RFC, it will be supeceded by a .bis document. DUE: Please discuss on the TSVWG list. --- draft-finzi-priority-switching-scheduler - Independent Submission Presented in TSVWG, IETF-100 Authors to revise draft based on TSVWG list discussion. --- Liaisons: ITU-T Study Group 12 Liaison on QoS Classes & markings for interconnection IEEE liaison to support L2/L3 work on ECN marking 3GPP liaison to support L2/L3 work on ECN marking ==================================================================
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