Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.txt

Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com> Thu, 14 March 2024 18:06 UTC

Return-Path: <g.white@CableLabs.com>
X-Original-To: tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF891C165518 for <tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.761
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.761 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.347, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cablelabs.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xEloLvKwJFSp for <tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from NAM11-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-co1nam11on2136.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.220.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B753C14F6A1 for <tsvwg@ietf.org>; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=B9V9Xx1PoF26Iv1MgaRbqVwzaEjjI+pUYCk5MziNk3fB9826DtuykOXmErm6+DY71adfR3EfOcxhUvYuqBE2q1NJodt5309O8BT65TawhOmaLSdCwNc6UEKeN/wLNfaZ/+mbfODczkdbjfHUSbGkTz8LKt3iVGyxuDYpghgPpy+homnQLnBCY2zPdZhIbpDPqBRG4c0Y3csyUaR4IAQ/ftLH+G2cnGhf1fcAMvv1kPuZ0ajARD0i6YEDGmaN4z7okyTIkz6HwjRvX78IseZvlu6gjfXcQR//lVdh5OaU6LBD16KH+lLMMlvbO3SLkPecr8UFPrWErzpZMbFI7OBSpA==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=56KkkMBXrpKg5O8HYhCXnx5uXyhJOGuzfJyaqf1IGLg=; b=N2yR4VMjijRuSwZo52CesraaPORvU++xirHZ99jhzJrKkFs1v0251C53iZiXnRi2CCWxEwTc/XIEPDRA/Haon8iE02TZhZIueHU12zijVeVdKD0Io9QmQYwnMhF+bfTmjPUk+7CKI4zVhU1/VX36P90mrNoViNzG9iLvSgiq3PbVndjtZ5LH2MzH8hDwAD5jUSLpKZtJFWX5uXoUpTDhxFM99ezbMt+Ner8GvYICrnryvRd95vu+VdI1oHQp+9p61Kbqe2ysg5hrazPcYCw31o45f6ZIr2jamsC4x7Yd3goXwoh9u0syypRdQX1B4sh9ELSGtGSLHbIwu9KlWXXWKw==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cablelabs.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=cablelabs.com; dkim=pass header.d=cablelabs.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cablelabs.com; s=selector2; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=56KkkMBXrpKg5O8HYhCXnx5uXyhJOGuzfJyaqf1IGLg=; b=LMytpkQ6HnumGVT8QiCsQw+rVHlsWykrcCqDQTzMtCdIATzYKQBcAh6d1rMZtrMUWOPfnj0rxb9BsHQ1dp+WiSMZdeTSIrHC1+qmVRrnis2RP3I8lVUBU44Dyr0/XCkpWzchK4CkOqvQ0noQSVfdfjLLoYq7D/GU+urzKaJwb2zTxBzZzhSEzsfPKf6nHolM2UWeM9HnQy3VOUiYSN+tEAwu5RqFoHJhKen34GUu9SpdUW+NVAqnGtSagMDBZ86kPNGTnwk0vTdtSXCk6Izzm2gK6aJcx7fdOOpiucCFohrzSQIHTGK9aZG21e/kSz0sDKHPXYF0hOmf+Dcwrx3P3A==
Received: from MWHPR0601MB3657.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:301:7c::23) by PH0PR06MB7479.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:510:5b::8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.7386.20; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:06:19 +0000
Received: from MWHPR0601MB3657.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::d2b7:3189:84b7:56ba]) by MWHPR0601MB3657.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::d2b7:3189:84b7:56ba%5]) with mapi id 15.20.7386.020; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:06:19 +0000
From: Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>
To: "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.txt
Thread-Index: AQHaYP0+duO/CxTKd0ej21Tuv9FSUrE3Tg8A
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:06:19 +0000
Message-ID: <F36C9D34-DB3B-46AA-B531-EC0A533E1055@CableLabs.com>
References: <170810436728.49360.16174522879440622549@ietfa.amsl.com>
In-Reply-To: <170810436728.49360.16174522879440622549@ietfa.amsl.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/16.82.24021813
authentication-results: dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=CableLabs.com;
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: MWHPR0601MB3657:EE_|PH0PR06MB7479:EE_
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 5fabc427-8c07-4155-5b74-08dc44517303
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-ms-exchange-antispam-relay: 0
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: vasS282qAiIf62Tjk8Mr0M6qdSvnXh8c1EJ4LARo4T/127VUTIJ8kQBlGeYJun86ujjZ1tfqsQxk1VG1uqAsSZ9OhoV8SQKhkCdxj8NHbs7ZW/zJlramCxF7AvxpFwhOgHXD6jq29WsUIcER0Gx7Nh53e2coasCJMamzv2MsdfIjpX1MDj+nHhl/xzgP2IsGG3Q+gqEvj847ruzKaQShLeAod8y9tmQM10v6lWr52GS/PfbaF375WYseT/PwQo2KpsL7fzORzyBg83d2g7FeftyUcnRY+0CIKBGfI8/Dk0pRLABRhyHsOH0g48REbK2l1z20WxDu+raOz+gyEuyy9Xs/dNEYFWeeh5IKBrY2BwsGcHkNSP1Rn3GdhKsNey0NcAW0kk74e2HsLtO+graBPkgrxsYK47zV3tuoD04P+6huhxqRxqU1Nj0oYpjTnqOBlGjgRz1RsIpjV4QxECX5PG3AaCs9Mv+YGlCpwzEYJ4WcXPOJhacbHfQJ9nEDBKNeKq4v6cnG6NWgU4JThsTDPHFY4rZz0WchEBg/Vtru/jp44lfP9j/DSIlGrVQcEQgVdImM1SbZsQlZVUfI+LLixtNndqJkUcMR9jTDcOo3V6Wete7GR4/rhZQ03WMTgR4v+fjXB/zkkm2PsuN4PZQ879gyK+dnd0K++xg/lauAKXI=
x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:MWHPR0601MB3657.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230031)(376005)(1800799015)(38070700009); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102;
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-chunkcount: 1
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-0: 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
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <F97E810DFAADAE428B2D221CE4246EB9@namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: cablelabs.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: MWHPR0601MB3657.namprd06.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 5fabc427-8c07-4155-5b74-08dc44517303
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 14 Mar 2024 18:06:19.2171 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ce4fbcd1-1d81-4af0-ad0b-2998c441e160
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: L06F1OXiu41Z4PgpUA4ha1yFpKZhlDXEEFKgs4LpErN51PvBLidLEZALbYCKVw/USs5+F+2HcH7vYbk7/7RUqQ==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PH0PR06MB7479
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/oP19dCykOQk_GqP6ekCNCeST8n8>
Subject: Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.txt
X-BeenThere: tsvwg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Transport Area Working Group <tsvwg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tsvwg>, <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tsvwg/>
List-Post: <mailto:tsvwg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg>, <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:06:24 -0000

All,

A short while ago, I uploaded a new version of the NQB PHB draft.  This version addresses the long list of comments (many editorial, but also a few technical) provided by Bob Briscoe (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/XPehj4puGc4Yo2EK2NrKfW5FcHI/)  

At this point, the authors believe that the document is ready for a second WGLC.

-Greg


On 2/16/24, 10:26 AM, "tsvwg on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>" <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote:


Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.txt is now available. It is a work item
of the Transport and Services Working Group (TSVWG) WG of the IETF.


Title: A Non-Queue-Building Per-Hop Behavior (NQB PHB) for Differentiated Services
Authors: Greg White
Thomas Fossati
Rüdiger Geib
Name: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.txt
Pages: 34
Dates: 2024-02-16


Abstract:


This document specifies characteristics of a Non-Queue-Building Per-
Hop Behavior (NQB PHB). The NQB PHB provides a shallow-buffered,
best-effort service as a complement to a Default deep-buffered best-
effort service for Internet services. The purpose of this NQB PHB is
to provide a separate queue that enables smooth (i.e. non-bursty),
low-data-rate, application-limited traffic microflows, which would
ordinarily share a queue with bursty and capacity-seeking traffic, to
avoid the latency, latency variation and loss caused by such traffic.
This PHB is implemented without prioritization and can be implemented
without rate policing, making it suitable for environments where the
use of these features is restricted. The NQB PHB has been developed
primarily for use by access network segments, where queuing delays
and queuing loss caused by Queue-Building protocols are manifested,
but its use is not limited to such segments. In particular,
applications to cable broadband links, Wi-Fi links, and mobile
network radio and core segments are discussed. This document
recommends a specific Differentiated Services Code Point (DSCP) to
identify Non-Queue-Building microflows.


[NOTE (to be removed by RFC-Editor): This document references an ISE
submission draft (I-D.briscoe-docsis-q-protection) that is approved
for publication as an RFC. This draft should be held for publication
until the queue protection RFC can be referenced.]


The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/>


There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.html <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22.html>


A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22 <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-22>


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts