Re: [tsvwg] MISSREF*R(1G) document in C238 has been overtaken by draft in IESG Evaluation - what now? :-)

[Heather Flanagan <[e-mail]>]

Hi Spencer,

I know it’s rude to answer a question with a question… but I have a few questions.

Draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb is not in our queue yet, right? Will it become part of C238 when it is in our queue? 

When the text in draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos is changed, will that text then be removed from draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb? 

Will there still be any kind of Updates relationship between draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb and draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos when this change is made?

If draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb is not in our queue and will not be part of C238, then I think an RFC Editor Note would be very useful for that draft. If we haven’t started editing draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos, then an RFC Editor Note there would be useful to. I defer to Sandy, though, as to what the editors will find most useful to make sure this change is captured during the editing process.


Thanks,
Heather

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Heather,
> 
> The IESG has https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb/> in IESG Evaluation for this week's telechat, and this draft updates draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos, which I'm sure you recognize because it's in Cluster C238, and has been hanging in the RFC Editor queue for some number of years. 
> 
> We THINK we don't want to have draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos published as an RFC and immediately have another RFC published that updates it - right?
> 
> We THINK the instructions in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09#section-12 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09#section-12> describe the changes to draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos clearly.
> 
> What is the proper way for the IESG to tell the RFC Editor to go ahead and make the changes to draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos? 
> 
> Our guesses include, but are not limited to, 
> Adding an RFC Editor Note to draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb (the draft with instructions about updating draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos)
> Adding an RFC Editor Note to draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos (the draft to be updated)
> Sending an e-mail to the RFC Editor requesting that the text changes be applied to draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos before it is published
> but I bet that you know what will make live easiest for you and the RFC editor staff ... please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Spencer
> 
> Spencer