Re: [tsvwg] [Dots] Best transport selection during an attack?

Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com> Thu, 05 November 2015 14:25 UTC

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On 11/5/2015 3:27 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:

>> If the DOTS server is connected to a different provider than
>> DOTS client, then this is a "remote access". Is the provider
>> terminating the DOTS client access part of the DDoS defense
>> system or may this provider be agnostic to all that?
> 
> The main issue is intervening networks.
> 
>> If the latter is true plain provider IP service is my expectation
>> and then QoS transport between client and server is a challenge.
> 
> Yes, that's correct (along with the administrative and 
> internal-political challenges operators may face even when they're 
> directly topologically adjacent to the requesting organization's
> network).

Correct. And that is the big problem with QoS/diffserv packet marking:
Once a packet leaves your network and your administrative control, no
one has to honor your packet markings (QoS). All bets are off.

- - ferg

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