Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th November 2010
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Subject: Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th November 2010
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:05:58 -0500
To: Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
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On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:05, Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2010-12-1, at 12:36, Eliot Lear wrote: >> As I recall, though, nobody really had a problem with dropping the >> distinction. It's only there in some UNIX flavors; and the only real >> issue is on multi-user systems where the port could conceivably be >> grabbed by someone. Realistically, that's not a concern because if it's >> important, there is something listening from start-up. > > "only some Unix flavors" is severely understating the issue. I just tried MacOS, FreeBSD and Ubuntu Linux, and none of them let user process bind to ports below 1024. > > I agree with you that the reasons for having separate port ranges are bogus, but the *reality* is that it *matters* whether your port is above or below 1024 on many deployed systems. And hence it matters for applicants what number they get. I would argue that at this point the 1024 boundary is now a de facto standard. I could not find a compelling reason in the draft for changing it. If there is one it would be great if someone could point it out to me. Best, George
- Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Eliot Lear
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Lars Eggert
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Eliot Lear
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Lars Eggert
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Eliot Lear
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Lars Eggert
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… t.petch
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… Randy Stewart
- Re: Reminder: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-ts… gnn