Re: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops - to conclude 24th March 2021

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>, "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tsvwg] Adoption call for draft-white-tsvwg-l4sops - to conclude 24th March 2021
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On 3/25/21, 11:16 AM, "tsvwg on behalf of Sebastian Moeller" <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>    just to ridicule me, what kind of L4S experiments are you keen to start?

[JL] Testing L4S on an E2E basis from the WLAN-based client all the way to the app provider on the other end. No particular details defined other than that - this is pretty early stage stuff but seems like the next logical step for this type of technology.

>Will you share the data and inform the WG about the nature and outcome of said experiments?

[JL] I would think so - we have previously done so with DNSSEC, IPv6, DoH, etc.

> What mechanisms do you intend to employ to restrict the experiment to consenting adults^W^W knowing and willing partners?

[JL] TBD as plans are worked out. But companies that operate infrastructure at scale are naturally focused on risk management of new technology testing & deployment, so I don't think there is cause for alarm in your part if that is what you are getting at.

[JL] BTW, if you know of anyone willing to develop code changes to AQM implementations in OpenWrt to handle ECT1-marked packets according to the L4S semantics, let me know as that seems something worth technically exploring as a related matter (noting that I chair a grants fund at my work that does underwrite open source dev and other applied research).